F1 Testing week 2 @ Jerez
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Soldato
He's going to be even more gutted if the renualt is very good car this year.
I agree, I will be gutted if Vettel has a car again that lets him run to the flag with no genuine pressure from the top drivers behind him. If Alonso hamilton or Button had a car within 0.1-0.2 on pace of the red bull vettel will fall apart. He showed that enough through 2009 and 10. He had a car consistently 0.5-1 sec faster last season and struggled.
Alonsos biggest assest to close that gap this year will be high degredation tyres. He showed last year he could maintain a gap and tyres far better than anyone. Kers system reliability will also play a huge part of the 2011 championship.
and watching a car at a corner doesnt reallty tell us anything the timing sheets dont either...
maybe it looked good because it didnt have much fuel... maybe the ferrari was half tanks or more ..
just useless crap from a rubbish journalist who usually makes the articles sound like they are more about him than anything else..
hes a self importaint ****
maybe it looked good because it didnt have much fuel... maybe the ferrari was half tanks or more ..
just useless crap from a rubbish journalist who usually makes the articles sound like they are more about him than anything else..
hes a self importaint ****
That's a damning statement.
In all honesty, at the moment we are all playing guessing games. Normally, I would say that we would've had a better idea of who is looking good, but for some reason, so far, all the teams are being very cagey. To the extent that Barrichello, MSc and Heidfeld went very fast, yet they didn't seem happy.
McLaren - at this point I have absolutely no idea if they have a produced a lemon or if they have made a car which is fastest. I'm completely lost on them.
Hopefully, by the last test, we shall see teams do some genuine runs and will show their true pace.
IMO, at this point, RBR and Ferrari are the teams who look to be in the best shape...but its too early to tell.
If they are that much faster - it wont make a jot of difference (worryingly)
Soldato
They have renualt KERS so yeah its good enough.
I believe Sauber and Torro Rosso have Ferrari KERS and as we know McLaren have the excellent Mercedes KERS. I've no idea what Williams use.
True.
In 2009, they had no KERS unit and although Hamilton/McLaren were fantastic with KERS, they couldn't get close enough to the RBR and Brawn cars to use it against them.
Obviously, its early days yet, but if RBR produce another cracker of a car, it would be impressive stuff.
Wasn't renaults system so poor they abandoned it?
Wasn't it only Ferrari and Mclaren that kept with it?
Off the top of my head from 2009 the Mercedes was clearly the best in terms of it working well and reliability. The Ferrari worked okay but had reliability issues but was better at the end of the season and the Renault was okay but maybe not developed as much as the other two?
Soldato
They experienced a problem or two i believe less than Ferrari. One of the main reasons teams abandoned KERS was weight and balance, not necessarily performance of the device.
Caporegime
IIRC, they have their own in-house unit but it uses a different mechanism from the one they used last time (which has been successfully developed for commercial application in public transport).
I would love more than anything for Williams to do a Brawn this year (fat chance). So saddening to see a team that are actual racers (rather than liars with a 1/2 contract) go down like the pan like they have.
The share sell off is really gutting. Another clear indication that something needs to be done to budgets when a team with the history of williams has lossed 40% of it's sponsorship revenue again.
If you would've said to someone in 97 that Villeneuves title would be their last people would laugh you out of town.
The share sell off is really gutting. Another clear indication that something needs to be done to budgets when a team with the history of williams has lossed 40% of it's sponsorship revenue again.
If you would've said to someone in 97 that Villeneuves title would be their last people would laugh you out of town.
Soldato
Ferrari had problems with the battery that they used in 2009. From what I hear they had to assemble them from the individual cells at each fly away race because they hadn't attained the necessary safety docs to transport the complete battery overseas. That might of been why they caught fire a couple of times. I'd be surprised if they haven't corrected that by now. It's developed by Magneti Marrelli. I think it's safe to assume that Sauber and TR have the same system.
Williams have their own battery powered system that's developed solely in house (motor, battery etc), not the flywheel powered system that Williams Hybrid Power have also been developing for GT racing and road car use. I can't tell you any more than that.
KERS is worth around 0.3 per lap and the trade of in weight distribution is fairly irrelevant now because of the restrictions, which I suspect they introduced to give teams the incentive to use KERS again. Also, the general consensus is that it's imperative for the race start to have KERS.
Don't know anything about Renault's system. Honda had developed a system that worked on the dyno, but didn't work on the car.
Williams have their own battery powered system that's developed solely in house (motor, battery etc), not the flywheel powered system that Williams Hybrid Power have also been developing for GT racing and road car use. I can't tell you any more than that.
KERS is worth around 0.3 per lap and the trade of in weight distribution is fairly irrelevant now because of the restrictions, which I suspect they introduced to give teams the incentive to use KERS again. Also, the general consensus is that it's imperative for the race start to have KERS.
Don't know anything about Renault's system. Honda had developed a system that worked on the dyno, but didn't work on the car.
Have the FIA introduced a heavier weight/ballast penalty for 2011, compared with 2009?
What is to stop teams doing a 2009, in 2011, with regards to KERS?
Remember, the 2 fastest teams in 2009 were both non-KERS.
Caporegime
If you would've said to someone in 97 that Villeneuves title would be their last people would laugh you out of town.
True, although Newey had already left by that point; I don't think his impact was widely recognised at the time.
Soldato
The weight distribution is set now. In 2009, having KERS was a handicap for the weight distribution as it pushed it rearwards and AFAIK they preferred it to be further forwards. The only real benefits for KERS in 2009 was on starts and overtaking, assuming that your lap time was good enough to get into a drag race with the car in front.
Having to accommodate the battery had a fair impact on car design as well, especially at a time when the aero rules tended to lead the teams towards a shorter wheel base. Now the longer wheel based cars, along with the weight distribution rules, makes KERS worthwhile.......as long it's reliability doesn't impact in a team's testing time and race reliability of course!
Man of Honour
I'm not sure how much of the sell off is to raise capital and how much is simply Frank & Patrick cashing in while they still can - they're both OAPs after all.