Poll: FA approach Hodgson for England job.

Would you be happy to see Hodgson as England manager

  • I would be happy with Woy as England manager

    Votes: 128 59.3%
  • I would rather decapitate myself with a rusty scythe

    Votes: 88 40.7%

  • Total voters
    216
  • Poll closed .
I'll take your word for the FIFA ranking but that's some achievement to given that all he actually done was get them to the knock out stages of the 94 World Cup.

Cool, this is Switzerland we are talking about, Hodgeson did hugely well with them at the time.

And getting Blackburn to 6th with the squad they had wasn't an achievement. They won the League 2 seasons earlier and he had an incredibly costly Blackburn squad last in the League when he was finally sacked.

No, but a couple of seasons a go Chelsea were challenging for the title, Woy might not have worked wonders but he did quite well considering.

It's the press's job to report on news and give opinions on things. Sometimes they can cross the line but I've not seen or heard anything that's come remotely close to that.

Would you be happier if everybody came out and said what a great appointment Hodgson is and he's going to lead us to glory? Would that make you feel better?

Hahaha! No, I'd like the press to not come out and set their stall out so early on with the England manager, do you not agree that what they've done with Redknapp is detrimental to whomever else gets the job that isn't Redknapp?

A poll of nearly 350 in a football sub-forum with nearly 40% in favour of 1 person and less than 2% in favour of another is pretty telling.

That's almost twice as many people as Wigan took the Fulham game this season, iirc.

I think at the time of the poll, the pro Redknapp proper gander was in full force and a lot of people for whom football might be no more then a passing interested could have voted. Still, 342 people is hardly an amazing pool.

Inter, Blackburn and Liverpool.

He didn't do particularly badly at Inter though did he? He's still very well thought of and popular over there, was he not bought back in a director / head coach role at some point after he left?

Blackburn, maybe. Liverpool, he came in to a very bad situation and his face didn't fit. So I don't think you could say he failed with all three of those at all, at a push two.


I know you like to try but you can't tell me my own opinions Tummy. No, I'm not pushing for Redknapp as England manager. I've always said that I don't think he should be England manager. Stating that he's better than Hodgson does not mean that I think he should be England manager.

Hahahaha, I don't try and 'tell' people opinions, I give me own and if I disagree with people I hope through debate to persuade them differently, alas it's impossible with yourself due to your huge bias against Woy.

Hahaha Anyone but Woy eh?

And to say that Spurs should be maintaining a Top 2 challenge with the resources available to them compared to teams around them is ridiculous. For them to finish 4th with that taken into account is more than an achievement.

No, they've underachieved. They had such a clear gap between themselves and third that for them to potentially finish outside of the top three is genuinely shocking form, from a side that had no *real* problems in maintaining a chance at getting a top two finish.

Maybe they felt that their was a communication problems between Fabio, the team and coaching staff that they didn't want repeated.

I don't think that was ~too much of a problem and was used by the media as a stick to beat Capello with.

I can't argue with anything you've said above, in particular with Spurs underachieving and not making a serious challenge for the top 2. If I'm honest, I'm quite annoyed that both Harry and the board allowed the slump to happen. If 'Arry was worth his worth, then he would have taken what he had and each game as it came rather than sticking to the same game play. Instead it was a run then emulated our start a few season back, for which Ramos was sacked.

'Arry has gotten a lot of things very wrong since the turn of the year. These decisions have eventually cost Spurs the challenge for a top two place. I'm not sure you can look to blame anyone else other then 'Arry, although if you ask him it won't be his fault :p

I'm surprised he's been given the time he has this season, I thought with the run of results Spurs have had, given how badly the wheels have come off and given the press fap fest over 'Arry and the court case, they could have gotten in a replacement for him.

Don't get me wrong, 'Arry's achievements of turning Spurs round from being stuck down the League to a top four finish is brilliant, but I question his ability to manage a 'top' side, maybe to get that extra push they need someone, just better.

We're not capable now but we should be aiming to be a side that is capable in the future.

If we write off the Euros then we should be appointing somebody with a long-term view of making us capable, not settling for mediocrity in the short-term.

Maybe, yes and no. I don't think you should just 'write off' an International tournament, but I do think the FA need a long term plan for development and management of the England national side.

I don't see the problem with bringing, what is essentially, a part time manager to get through the Euro's, and having a long term plan to come in to place after that. England's problem often isn't the management of the side, it's the media (and due to that the unrealistic expectations) and dross FA with their laughable view on training young English players.
 
I cant remember who I voted for on that, I think I went with Pearce though simply because (and I'm still of this opinion) that the long term successor to Capello should be appointed after the Euro's and not before (obviously that's not going to happen though so my opinion on that is fairly moot)

I didn't vote on that, nor did I vote on this :o
 
If we hadnt sent all our players out on loan then yes I think we could have.

Corluka on loan
not using GDS
Redknap hating Pav

Thats what killed us.



I do not believe for one moment that was the reason. It was a combination of many things factored into one. One of those reasons is that there some players who have underachieved and not played at their full potential, Bale, Modric and even VDV to name a few. I'm still convinced they were of the mind that Harry was going and so too were they. Just how would you be feeling if you were Modric right now?

It didn't help either that the board limited spending during the previous two windows, fully knowing a new manager could be incoming following harry's trial.


You had to send those players out on loan because you couldn't afford to keep the squad you had the previous season without the CL money.

I was always under the impression the our one and only time in the CL was a bonus and in no way did Levy over spend on the proviso of CL football. We off loaded because it made good business sense as these players couldn't break into the side at the time. We didn't exactly break the bank last summer and the last window. Pinnear for me was disappointing at Spurs, so Moyes can/has obviously get something out of him that Harry couldn't.


We digress
 
I'm beyond gobsmacked at this news. Roy crumbled under the pressure at liverpool.. This is the best demonstration of out of the frying pan into the fire.

Absolutely amazed it wasn't Redknapp. The absolute best choice for the job.
 
  • He is cheap, compared to the money they would need to tempt / buy out other managers. (Redknapp)
  • Has achieved a lot compared to what he's had to work with at International level. (Redknapp has no International experience, and has 'only' won one FA Cup)
  • Is known for being tactically astute and making teams hard to play against / organised. ('Arry is a man manager)
  • He will take a bigger role in the development of youth and hopefully be involved in St Georges Park. ('Arry isn't bothered by young players)
  • He will actively move to London to be based in the capital and around the FA. (Redknapp refuses to move from the South Coast, part of his discussion with Newcastle was a private jet)
  • Hodgson is far more influential. He's part of several UEFA technical panels and has managed across Europe and at International level. (Redknapp isn't)

1976–1980 Halmstad
1982 Bristol City
1982 Oddevold
1983–1984 Örebro
1985–1989 Malmö FF
1990–1992 Neuchâtel Xamax
1992–1995 Switzerland
1995–1997 Internazionale
1997–1998 Blackburn Rovers
1999 Internazionale
1999–2000 Grasshopper
2000–2001 FC Copenhagen
2001 Udinese
2002–2004 United Arab Emirates
2004–2005 Viking
2006–2007 Finland
2007–2010 Fulham
2010–2011 Liverpool
2011– West Bromwich Albion

Experienced.

This is by no means, me saying that he's the right man for the job. Just highlighting some more reasons why they might of considered him over Redknapp.
 
  • He is cheap, compared to the money they would need to tempt / buy out other managers. (Redknapp)
  • Has achieved a lot compared to what he's had to work with at International level. (Redknapp has no International experience, and has 'only' won one FA Cup)
  • Is known for being tactically astute and making teams hard to play against / organised. ('Arry is a man manager)
  • He will take a bigger role in the development of youth and hopefully be involved in St Georges Park. ('Arry isn't bothered by young players)
  • He will actively move to London to be based in the capital and around the FA. (Redknapp refuses to move from the South Coast, part of his discussion with Newcastle was a private jet)
  • Hodgson is far more influential. He's part of several UEFA technical panels and has managed across Europe and at International level. (Redknapp isn't)

1976–1980 Halmstad
1982 Bristol City
1982 Oddevold
1983–1984 Örebro
1985–1989 Malmö FF
1990–1992 Neuchâtel Xamax
1992–1995 Switzerland
1995–1997 Internazionale
1997–1998 Blackburn Rovers
1999 Internazionale
1999–2000 Grasshopper
2000–2001 FC Copenhagen
2001 Udinese
2002–2004 United Arab Emirates
2004–2005 Viking
2006–2007 Finland
2007–2010 Fulham
2010–2011 Liverpool
2011– West Bromwich Albion

Experienced.

This is by no means, me saying that he's the right man for the job. Just highlighting some more reasons why they might of considered him over Redknapp.

In nearly 35 years of management what has he won (not saying he hasn't won, just wondering what he has got in 35 years), and importantly where is his consistency at staying with a club? From what I can see the longest he's lasted is 4 years at any one place. Lets put that into real terms with England, thats prep for 1 World cup and 1 Euros. I wanted our next manager to be a long term move.

If I was interviewing for someone at work and saw a CV like that I'd read it as 'problem, keep the **** away from my business'.

I am genuinely amazed people here are defending him, he is a poor choice for the job, and being taken on due to a lack of options and cost saving.
 
In nearly 35 years of management what has he won, and importantly where is his consistency at staying with a club? From what I can see the longest he's lasted is 4 years at any one place.

If I was interviewing for someone at work and saw a CV like that I'd read it as 'problem, keep the **** away from my business'.

I am genuinely amazed people here are defending him, he is a poor choice for the job, and being taken on due to a lack of options and cost saving.

So you wouldn't hire Mourinho based on that too?

He's won more then Redknapp :)
 
So you wouldn't hire Mourinho based on that too?

He's won more then Redknapp :)

I'd hire Mourinho because he is sheer class, and has reached the highest level of success with every club he has managed.

The joke that is being paraded as an option in this thread... just... wow.
 
Ah, why's that then?
He used the Europa League to blood his youngsters earlier in the season, plays Walker and Bale week in week out and regularly uses Livermore and Sandro.

Roy left Fulham with one of the oldest squads in the league, is gradually increasing the average age of the West Brom squad and completely disregarded Liverpool's youth for 'experience' as Moses said.

Not only are you wrong to say Redknapp isn't interested in youth you're wrong to say Hodgson will ever give youth a chance. He simply doesn't stay in any job long enough to care.
 
No, but a couple of seasons a go Chelsea were challenging for the title, Woy might not have worked wonders but he did quite well considering.

And Chelsea are underachieving :confused:

How is leaving one of the costliest squads in the League bottom of the table doing quite well?
Hahaha! No, I'd like the press to not come out and set their stall out so early on with the England manager, do you not agree that what they've done with Redknapp is detrimental to whomever else gets the job that isn't Redknapp?.

The press were reporting that they believed Redknapp was set to get the job, just like everybody else thought he was going to get the job too. Again, that's their job. They're meant to report what was going on and the general feeling was that Redknapp to England was only a matter of time. That's proven to be wrong but you can hardly argue that at the time everybody thought the job was Redknapp's.
He didn't do particularly badly at Inter though did he? He's still very well thought of and popular over there, was he not bought back in a director / head coach role at some point after he left?

Blackburn, maybe. Liverpool, he came in to a very bad situation and his face didn't fit. So I don't think you could say he failed with all three of those at all, at a push two.

He's popular at Inter? Where did you hear that?

He underachieved at all 3 sides.
Hahahaha, I don't try and 'tell' people opinions, I give me own and if I disagree with people I hope through debate to persuade them differently, alas it's impossible with yourself due to your huge bias against Woy.

Hahaha Anyone but Woy eh?

You do try to tell people their opinions. You were telling me earlier that I want Redknapp to be the next England manager which couldn't be further than the truth.

You keep saying it's impossible to discuss it with me but of the 2 of us, I'm the only one putting up reasoned arguments. You're coming out with **** about it being disgusting that people don't want Hodgson :/
No, they've underachieved. They had such a clear gap between themselves and third that for them to potentially finish outside of the top three is genuinely shocking form, from a side that had no *real* problems in maintaining a chance at getting a top two finish.

We're going off topic here but anybody that thinks Spurs finishing 4th is an underachievement needs a reality check imo. Their recent form has been poor but that's magnified because of how well they were performing until recently. Spurs's finances don't compare with any of the sides they're competing with (Newcastle aside) so for them to be in the mix is an achievement and anything more is a great achievement.
 
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Also, this isn't aimed at anyone in particular.

I've no idea why the next England manager has to be English, I'd rather bring in the best available manager for a long term project.

We've done that before, it was still the managers fault when we were rubbish. :o
 
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