Patrolling this thread almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
I get that up here nearly every year.

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Patrolling this thread almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter.
Roll on next week, cannot wait for this, the wife is going to become a fallout widow.
Regarding Fallout 4 this is a quote from a member on a different forum I use:
"Leaker's have played 20-30 hours now, It doesn't seem to have any game breaking bugs reported/leaked so far. I did see some visual glitches and bad AI like Dogmeat failing to get on an elevator properly and falling."
My reward? go and type in "Fallout 4 pip boy edition" on an auction site and you will see that they are selling for £400+
So are you going to sell it for £400 then?
If so then, yes great buy and £320+ is a great reward.....but if you are not going to get the £400+ for it then its not worth any more than you paid for it. Just saying!
Just because people are asking £400+ for something doesn't necessarily mean it's selling at £400+
I'm gonna have to stop punching myself as to why I didnt order the pip-boy edition when it was available. Schoolboy error.
by somehow implying that because i bought a pre release game i am making the gaming industry worse lmao.
The guy collects Fallout memorabilia, so leave it out with your judgemental ways please. I am quite jealous that I didn't order one, as I wouldn't mind some game bits for my shelves.
But by pre-ordering you are telling the Publisher/Dev team that you are willing to accept substandard software and giving them your seal of approval to keep on doing this.
Yes, I do believe that this IS making the gaming industry worse and it will keep going that way until people stop pre-ordering.
I don't agree on pc titles at all, On consoles yeah It could be an issue I guess as most games are made primarily for consoles anyway. Fallout 4 is a different kettle of fish though.
Last game I pre ordered was bf4 premium, I Have not played crysis 3, farcry 4, or any batman games yet but fallout 4 can have my money as its already awesome and I have not even played it yet.
Another thing I would gladly admit to, I would pre order fallout 5 right now if I knew they were making it.
How am I being judgemental? I am merely giving my opinion that something isnt worth more than you paid for it unless you actually sell it for that price.
Whether it's for Fallout memorabilia or anything else it really doesn't matter. I collect stuff too, always have but I don't think that my Alien Head DVD box set I purchased for £99 is worth any more than that If I don't intend to sell it to someone for more than I bought it for.
In fact I curse the thing every time I see it's covered in dust.
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Errrrr......Well the difference to me is that 3-6 months after the launch I will be getting a more patched and more stable game for probably less money than the morons who pre-ordered it. DOH!!
I dont care what game it is or who has made it with this FX API or whatever......If everyone stops pre-ordering games then Devs may take some notice and get them pretty much stable to begin with.
All pre-orderers do by pre-ordering is signal to the developer/publisher that you are more than willing to bend over and take any old crap that they throw out on Launch day. Stop being mugs and use your buying power to make them give you a better quality product.
Otherwise this will just keep on happening and these forums will keep echoing your rants about **** quality games. This is the type of thing which we should all be united on regardless of which GFX Card vendor you prefer.
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I really couldn't care whether anyone pre-orders or not...I am only giving my opinion that this is leading to poorer games at launch because the public are letting it happen by continuing to pre-order. That's all.
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I had FO3 and loved it....as we all know it was buggy as hell at launch, but we persevered with it and the majority enjoyed it. But I, like so many others have been burned by too many poor quality titles that I have decided to stop pre-ordering. It has gotten to a state where you are counting non bugged launch titles on one hand....maybe just a few fingers, and I am sure that we can all agree that it has gotten worse in the last few years.
I know it will never happen, but what if every PC owner who intended to pre-order COD 27....just didnt do it.
That would send a very big message to the developers and publishers because they would have expected big pre-order numbers. I would love to be in the boardroom to see what was said.
I know that devs do work hard and I do not blame them for the majority of the issues. I blame the publishers because they are only interested in the bottom line and not how good the experience of a game is. The Devs have no option but to toe the publisher line because they could not possibly afford to produce a game on their own these days. It is very big bucks indeed.
I really couldn't care whether anyone pre-orders or not...I am only giving my opinion that this is leading to poorer games at launch because the public are letting it happen by continuing to pre-order. That's all.
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Skips to end. Sees no sign of nVidia Gameswork argument/ info. Ends.