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deuse said:
You really can't see it?
Go and do some reading on the subject, it will tell you much more then I could and in a shorter time.
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I'm sure most things could tell me more than you could :p

Can't even explain what you mean and despite evidence demonstrating otherwise, refuse to believe it. Good show!
 
deuse said:
I already posted a link to the government PDFs. What more do they want?
Oh it's you...should have known....
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A simple explanation instead of trying to make a display of what other peoples ignorance of your way of thinking.

If you dont want to justify your point, then what was the point of making it, except to belittle others after when they cannot see what you mean.

This isn't school, no need to belittle others to impress your internet mates.
 
Avenged7Fold said:
A simple explanation instead of trying to make a display of what other peoples ignorance of your way of thinking.

If you dont want to justify your point, then what was the point of making it, except to belittle others after when they cannot see what you mean.

This isn't school, no need to belittle others to impress your internet mates.
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I was belittling no one.
This is GD. If you say anything you have to prove it or the debate goes back and forth for days.
To save time I posted a link from the government which other members asked for. Now grow a pair.
 
deuse said:
I was belittling no one.
This is GD. If you say anything you have to prove it or the debate goes back and forth for days.
To save time I posted a link from the government which other members asked for. Now grow a pair.
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The problem is that your source appears to suggest the opposite of what you asserted.
 
Tunney said:
He'll be back once someone else has dealt with the fallout of the referendum vote. I think he will launch a new party.

And he's also still an MEP and, I assume, will continue to be one for at least two years.
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What makes you think he'll launch a new party? And what do you mean by dealt with the fallout? What fallout is there for the UKIP leader to deal with exactly given that they're not in government and only have one MP?
 
dowie said:
What makes you think he'll launch a new party?
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There's been rumblings about him starting a direct democracy party for a while.

And what do you mean by dealt with the fallout? What fallout is there for the UKIP leader to deal with exactly given that they're not in government and only have one MP?
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What future does a single-issue party have once that single issue has been addressed?

Also, I very much doubt he wants to be quizzed in detail on what kind of relationship he favours with Europe. It will only lead to him alienating some of his supporters.
 
dowie said:
What makes you think he'll launch a new party? And what do you mean by dealt with the fallout? What fallout is there for the UKIP leader to deal with exactly given that they're not in government and only have one MP?
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No but he won't want to be associated with anything bad that comes out of it, ie if we accept free movement or the economy slides into a recession. He has banked his glory and gone to hide for a while.
 
Tunney said:
There's been rumblings about him starting a direct democracy party for a while.



What future does a single-issue party have once that single issue has been addressed?

Also, I very much doubt he wants to be quizzed in detail on what kind of relationship he favours with Europe. It will only lead to him alienating some of his supporters.
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Doubt it very much. Aaron, the multi million backer and the money behind UKIP has said he's going to start a new party and there is no place in it for Farrage. Can't see two new parties starting up from UKIP.
 
Six6siX said:
The problem is that your source appears to suggest the opposite of what you asserted.
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Indeed, but this is Deuse we're dealing with here.

Instead of trying to point out how you may have misunderstood the figure, like you have done with him, he will just keep repeating "Duh, read it again" because he knows he's backed into the corner and can't 'grow a pair' to back up his wild claims :D
 
Tunney said:
There's been rumblings about him starting a direct democracy party for a while.
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Rumblings from where? He's stated he's leaving politics... granted he is a politician and they're not always known for telling the truth.

What future does a single-issue party have once that single issue has been addressed?
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It doesn't, thus his resignation - he's achieved his goal and he's not going to have any part in negotiations regardless. I'm not a fan particularly but I don't see the issue with him resigning now.
 
RaohNS said:
I was responding to the fact Labour is now no longer the party of working class/poor. They are in it for themselves.

Very little to do with immigration but you would be deluded to not realize there has been wage suppression since a rise in immigration. I could do anecdotes to match the reality but they are as much use in GD as actual evidence.



Political parties are there to ensure workers should get a fair deal. I agree with some legislation in some nations where the lowest paid employee cannot be less than X times the rate of the highest paid. The last man should always be able to see the first and the first should always be able to see the last.
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In a meritocratic environment that simply doesn't work. I've worked in the private sector for years and years, and dealt with people at all levels of seniority. You want the income of a global CEO to marry somewhat, however distinctly or remotely, with a receptionist or cleaner or facilities personnel?

You should earn what you are worth. If you're not doing so then if you really are worth that, someone else will pay it.
 
Six6siX said:
The problem is that your source appears to suggest the opposite of what you asserted.
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No the Gov PDFs show we import more then we export from the EU and our exports to the EU are going down.

In other words they sell more things to us then we do to them.

Freakbro said:
deuse in not reading or understanding what he posts shocker :eek:
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Avenged7Fold said:
:D
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should have read the thread your getting embarrassing now
Getting ready for the visa laws gents? ;)
 
deuse said:
No the Gov PDFs show we import more then we export from the EU and our exports to the EU are going down.

In other words they sell more things to us then we do to them.
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Quite. These figures are in relation to the UK remember, not the EU. I think you're missing the point that our exports to the EU are only a portion of EU trade.

And since we import more from the EU than the EU imports from us, we are more dependent on it than the other way around.

Think of it this way: of the UKs total exports, 38-48% are to the EU (from your source).

This is equivalent to around 6% of the the total inter-EU exports.

http://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php/Intra-EU_trade_in_goods_-_recent_trends

In other words, we need the EU a lot more than they need us. Trade with them may be decreasing but it is still a large portion of our trade and is in no way comparable to the rest of the EU's trade.
 
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deuse said:
No the Gov PDFs show we import more then we export from the EU and our exports to the EU are going down.

In other words they sell more things to us then we do to them.





should have read the thread your getting embarrassing now
Getting ready for the visa laws gents? ;)
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The uk's eu exports are between 38 - 48%
The exports from the eu to the uk is around 13% of there total output

Which part are you struggling with
 
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