It would add to the potential existence of the Nephelim...
Fascinating new theory for Nazca Lines
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A friend of mine took part in an experiment to drag Stonehenge-size stones and it was trivial. You just have lots of people and rollers. You raise them by working on balance points - sort of like a seesaw.
Caporegime
It's not just that we don't need to; it's because they're stupid. The pyramids are not an example of the incredible success of Ancient Egyptian civilisation, they're an example of how f'ed up the whole country was. They poured an incredible amount of effort into vainglorious projects for their autocratic leaders. This isn't a sign of success, it's a sign of a deeply dysfunctional society. The modern world regularly carries out projects that dwarf the scale of the pyramids; the difference is that instead of being wasted on vanity projects they're put into productive projects like a tunnel under the channel, incredible continent spanning railways, or canals hundreds of kilometres long.
these places where they built with massive monolith stones the quarries for them always seem to have been around 20ft higher some many miles away.
it seems they purposely pick a spot somewhere downhill of a quarry to build, I guess it's mostly gentle slopes for miles they are moving along.
with hundreds/thousands of men it's probably quite possible.
the mystery is who actually cut them and who moved them to baalbek, the theory is the romans didn't know about the ones still in the quarry or they would have been cut in to smaller blocks by the romans instead of being left untouched all the way to modern day.
if you look at photos of baalbek the foundation stones are crazy huge, the building stones on top look tiny in comparison almost the romans came along and built on top of some ruins
people always claim we couldn't move a 1500 ton stone block with modern machines so it's impossible to have been done thousands of years ago.
but as I shown with videos we can lift 20,000 tons, we even have a plane that can transport 250 tons (how amazing is that? getting 250tons of cargo to fly)
Nasa regularly rolled around 7000 tons at 1mph to the launch site.
theres been tests where one man has shown how you can move a muti ton pillow with 1 person who can hen even get the pillow to stand up right, (videos on youtube)
when you have hundreds of thousands of people surely 1500tons is deadly to move and needs a lot of effort but its not impossible.
we don't need aliens or giants we just need to know if it was actually the romans or someone else doing it
how easy did they find it to place them solidly upright and stick similar-sized crosspieces on top?
Caporegime
Arc of the covenant was used to build a lot of the later stuff.
Everything else was built by the Atlantean civilisation that left earth when their ZPM was running low.
You can do anything with 40000 slaves and 5 generations.
Everything else was built by the Atlantean civilisation that left earth when their ZPM was running low.
You can do anything with 40000 slaves and 5 generations.
Sorry but I don't recall the details, but it wasn't difficult to get the stone vertical, and given they only had one stone I don't think they tried to place a top stone. He got a tee shirt out of it which allowed him full access to Stonehenge when he visited.
Indeed, the last heard of the Atlanteans was they entered in to the stargate in Wales after the seas rose more than 70m and left them homeless.
However, there are rumours they occasionally send back FRB's (fast radio bursts) from 4 different galaxies: the Hyperbolic, the Hypobolic, the Hyperhypobolic and the Hypohyperbolic galaxy. Who knew?
Associate
And was poor form to die on the scaffold then get kicked off by the next lucky customer
Man of Honour
The experiments I've read about concluded that rollers couldn't be used for very heavy stones because the force either drives the logs into the ground or grinds them down between the stone and the ground (depending on how hard the ground is). Several tonnes, sure. Several dozen tonnes, probably not. 1500 tonnes, no way.
The experiment I have seen with replicas of the right weight used a sledge, which is very likely how ancient people did it. There's even a surviving ancient Egyptian depiction of people doing exactly that. It also shows some people on the sledge pouring something onto the ground in front of it, presumably to reduce friction.
The raising of the uprights at Stonehenge could be done, as you say, using balance points and gravity. Dig a pit of the right shape, drag the stone over it, stone tips in. Not entirely safe, but it should work if you get the shape of the pit right. Once it's mostly upright, enough people with enough ropes can haul it the rest of the way.
Can you imagine getting the shape of the pit wrong and having the stone break because it tips too fast and slams against the opposite side of the pit? The multitude of people who dragged 30 tonnes uphill for miles would not be happy.
The crosspieces are easily done with the appropriate "not much technology, lots of manpower and time" approach. You don't raise the stones. You raise the ground. Dig up earth a small distance away, pack it around the uprights after they've been put in place. Repeat until you have a shallow flat-topped hill the same height as the uprights. Drag the crosspiece stones up the shallow slopes until they're correctly positioned on the tops of the uprights (now at ground level). Dig all the earth away from the stones and put it back where you dug it up (or use it to create earthworks, if you like, but the earthworks at Stonehenge are older than the stones so they didn't do that there).
Man of Honour
Thinking about the super-heavy Baalbeck stones...they must have used some form of mechanical advantage to drag the stones uphill. The quarry is right next door to the build site (probably why they built there), but the build site is a bit higher. Some sort of geared capstan? Those were definitely known to the Romans. Maybe they were around earlier and records of them have been lost over the centuries.
Man of Honour
The pyramids required so many resources that they contributed to the collapse of the country. They're a vastly expensive way to build a vastly impractical building. Massive surface area used for the size of the building, very little interior space, huge amount of stone used for what you get, massively complex construction. They're very impressive structures, but they're extremely bad as buildings or anything else of any use. Romans megastructures such as aquaducts are at least as impressive (much more so IMO) and extremely useful.
Humans today could make a pyramid identical to the great pyramid in a tenth of the time with a thousandth of the labour, but they don't because it would be a pointless waste of time, materials, money and land. The idea that humans today couldn't build a pyramid is deluded nonsense. Humans today build vastly more impressive structures. Including a pyramid vastly better than any of the ancient ones - the Luxor in Las Vegas.
Associate
Did the portico on this
Associate
Ok then why are its dimensions, the scale of the earth?
Associate
Man of Honour
Eh? What does "the scale of the earth" even mean in this context? And what object are you referring to?
This is one of those magic numbers things, isn't it? I think I'm going to regret asking the questions.
Soldato
That sentence makes no sense.
Associate
The most amazing realization is the Great Pyramid encodes all of this and more simultaneously. This single triangle is clearly above my pay grade to design!
We don’t really know when the inch, foot, yard, furlong, mile system was invented, although it appears to date back at least to Elizabethan England. Maybe that was when this system of measurement was rediscovered as a complete system, or maybe the knowledge resurfaced only after being long preserved by a secret society (John Dee and/or Francis Bacon come to mind). More research is needed to definitively answer these intriguing questions.
Around the time of my birth, writer and deep-thinker John Michell rediscovered that the Great Pyramid’s elevation geometry encodes the true proportions of the Moon and Earth. This is evident when you bring these two bodies together such that the Moon is tangent to Earth’s surface. The tip of the shaded pyramid diagrammed below is at the center of the Moon and the base of the pyramid runs along Earth’s equator.
I have illustrated this relationship and added relevant dimensions. It turns out that the combined mean diameters of Moon and Earth measure 10080 miles (99.96% accurate according to NASA).
Associate
Many people consider the great Pyramid of Giza to be one of the oldest, greatest and most perfect, and scientific ‘monuments’ on the face of the Earth, created thousands of years ago. However, many people are unaware that the Great Pyramid isn’t only an architectural and engineering marvel, it is a geographical one too: It is located at the exact intersection of the LONGEST LINE OF LATITUDE and the LONGEST LINE OF LONGITUDE.
Associate
The idea that humans today couldn't build a pyramid is deluded nonsense. Humans today build vastly more impressive structures. Including a pyramid vastly better than any of the ancient ones - the Luxor in Las Vegas.
Yeh to be sure that will be there in five thousand years from now
Yeh to be sure that will be there in five thousand years from now