Fat shaming on a plane - who is in the wrong?

Look, I've no issue with the guy getting ****** off at being lumbered with having to share space on a plane with a severely overweight person: it is seriously annoying.

But this "it was a private conversation" stuff is nonsense.

If he'd been having a verbal conversation on his phone, saying much the same stuff, would that be on her for listening?

Or would we say that he was being rather indiscreet and rude?
 
Sliver said:
Fatties gonna fat. /thread.
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Did it take this long? GD I am disappoints! :p


Yeah it is very selfish to promote being obese as ok/desirable. But hopefully just think it justifies it to people who are already obese and not going to change. I don't think any size 10s are going to jump on the 'I wanna be huge' thing.

Im sure deep down most people know it's not a good thing. But this example, she maybe just insane and actually believe it.
 
cheesyboy said:
But this "it was a private conversation" stuff is nonsense.

If he'd been having a verbal conversation on his phone, saying much the same stuff, would that be on her for listening?

Or would we say that he was being rather indiscreet and rude?
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The point is that if we judge everyone by the mean stuff that we say privately to our chosen audience then we are all pieces of ****.

I am sure that this lady had messaged her friends before unkind stuff about another human being.

There is a big big difference between a conversation in a public place that could be casually eavesdropped and a message between 2 people that requires someone to take a picture of their screen and zoom in to see what was being said.
 
some things that are messaged in private are exactly that.

Otherwise we are all guilty, recently a employee left me who was like a close mate, we saw each other for 5 hours plus a day so knew most things about each other at the end.

When i got his company phone back he hadn't deleted any content and yes i did read a few messages and found some content written about myself that i was surprised and disappointed at. What can you do it wasnt really for me to read it and i'm sure in the heat of the moment he may not of meant it how it was written or he was just playing up to his mates. He wouldn't of said it to my face.

Same as this really, he was quite humble and apologised in the video, she was looking for a argument and shouldn't of read his phone
 
cheesyboy said:
Look, I've no issue with the guy getting ****** off at being lumbered with having to share space on a plane with a severely overweight person: it is seriously annoying.

But this "it was a private conversation" stuff is nonsense.

If he'd been having a verbal conversation on his phone, saying much the same stuff, would that be on her for listening?

Or would we say that he was being rather indiscreet and rude?
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That is irrelevant, now you are getting into if this then that. That did not happen so why even think about it.

What if he shouted fatty fatty in her face?
What if he threw a mars bar at her?
What if he touched her?
What if he did nothing?
What if he nuked her from orbit as that was the only way to be sure?

He didn't do any of those things, he did what he did and kept to himself and in her making it a big event he handled it well.
 
People should be weighed with there cases, why should anyone get charged for an extra 1kg luggage when a fat person doesn't for being tens of kg heavier. Nothing worse than being sat next to them when they overflow out of the seat.
 
I'm amazed so many people are so happy to defend people chatting **** inches from their faces, it's private? Would none of you really take any offence if it was about you or your nose or whatever. Just smile. I guess it's very British to say nothing, remain very stoic but be fuming on the inside. I see that now I'm removed from it.

Then on the flip side spew some pretty vile stuff about some random fat women that I didn't even care existed.

Stick to one side, you can't be all passive aggressive online but timid to real people. Well I guess you can.... :P
 
robj20 said:
People should be weighed with there cases, why should anyone get charged for an extra 1kg luggage when a fat person doesn't for being tens of kg heavier. Nothing worse than being sat next to them when they overflow out of the seat.
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I agree. Me AND my suitcase weigh less than some people, yet I have to pay the same :/

Then yea, you have the problems of seat sizes and the person next to them. Plus who is going to carry them out in an emergency? You wouldn't be able to, they would just have to be left behind.
 
Efour said:
I'm amazed so many people are so happy to defend people chatting **** inches from their faces, it's private? Would none of you really take any offence if it was about you or your nose or whatever. Just smile. I guess it's very British to say nothing, remain very stoic but be fuming on the inside. I see that now I'm removed from it.

Then on the flip side spew some pretty vile stuff about some random fat women that I didn't even care existed.

Stick to one side, you can't be all passive aggressive online but timid to real people. Well I guess you can.... :p
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I wouldn't say anything as I wouldn't have been rude enough to be watching what somebody is typing on their phone in the first place.
 
Efour said:
I'm amazed so many people are so happy to defend people chatting **** inches from their faces, it's private? Would none of you really take any offence if it was about you or your nose or whatever. Just smile. I guess it's very British to say nothing, remain very stoic but be fuming on the inside. I see that now I'm removed from it.

Then on the flip side spew some pretty vile stuff about some random fat women that I didn't even care existed.

Stick to one side, you can't be all passive aggressive online but timid to real people. Well I guess you can.... :p
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I don't think anyone is saying that the lady wasn't entitled to be annoyed or hurt with what was said. She should have appreciated it's context though. This wasn't fat shaming in the traditional sense it was two guys chatting ****. As far as we know their views went no where else to 'shame' her.

I would have had no issue if she even approached the guy about the issue. The moment she started to video it though to try and validate what she was doing and make the guy look like a 'dick' then she was in the wrong.
 
She had no place to be invading his privacy and reading his phone. He genuinely might not be comfortable sitting next to a fat, just like I wouldn't be comfortable sitting next to a loud child. I don't see an issue with his attitude or comments. He wasn't being aggressive nor did he say these comments to her directly.
 
Did he take photos of her though? I'd say that crosses the line between harmless banter and ridicule if so. If he really didn't want her to see it, he would have turned the screen, it's not hard to do. No one wants to feel squashed on any sort of public transport but if your gonna take the ****, at least do it discretely.
 
I can see why he'd be annoyed, All too often at the cinema I end up with someone who once sat down doesn't take just their seat up and starts morphing into what should be my chair . I've had to move before when it's not been a packed showing as I wouldn't be able to sit there for 2+ hours with someone constantly pushing against me, sadly it usually comes hand in hand with a smell.
 
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