US: Fear the Walking Dead

Gerard said:
Something that fear the walking dead has failed to do so far is explain how the zombies managed to overrun the military so easily. Not as if theyre super stealth ninja's, they shamble along yet managed to overrun defensive positions that had tanks, heavy caliber machine guns etc. You'd think 1 minigun would be enough to mow down thousands of them with ease.

Still time i suppose but i doubt they'll go that indepth.
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None of the shows have explained it. The walkers are very slow moving and the military weapons would tear them apart. Yet somehow even when in all their vehicles the military were taken down...including all their bases somehow? Not that it matters if every person is infected. Any civilisation would inevitably fall again, it would just take one death that went unchecked.
 
I was hoping this would be explained, as I only started TWD about a year ago and it really bugged me. Now, I'm not so bothered. They don't explain it because they can't. I now just accept the world they're in and try and enjoy it from there.
 
It'd make sense in a place like the UK where people don't have guns but it's harder to believe a gun toting nation would fall so quickly when they are quite easy to deal with.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
Not that it matters if every person is infected. Any civilisation would inevitably fall again, it would just take one death that went unchecked.
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That's pretty much it... in the early days understanding of infection was zero. That includes how people became infected and that everyone was basically carrying a dormant virus.

It only takes 1 infected to destroy a military base if people don't understand how it the virus works.

And back to my earlier question... if I don't have BT.tv is there anywhere else I can watch this?
 
AndyCr15 said:
I was hoping this would be explained, as I only started TWD about a year ago and it really bugged me. Now, I'm not so bothered. They don't explain it because they can't. I now just accept the world they're in and try and enjoy it from there.
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Fear the Walking Dead isn't going to be an origin story or explain much of that.

Egon said:
That's pretty much it... in the early days understanding of infection was zero. That includes how people became infected and that everyone was basically carrying a dormant virus.

It only takes 1 infected to destroy a military base if people don't understand how it the virus works.

And back to my earlier question... if I don't have BT.tv is there anywhere else I can watch this?
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I think it comes down to a lot of factors:

-The outbreak is fragmented
-Low understanding or refusing to believe what they are dealing with until too late
-People inside caring for those who are turning then confined indoors as curfews, etc. are put in place become easy victims of those who've turned - resulting in later explosions in numbers of walkers as they slowly escape from the buildings naturally.
-Later mass panic, etc. with the military having to deal with large groups of people some of whom are and some aren't a threat but no easy and quick way to sort that out.
-General break down of organisation as the chain of command fails, etc.

And so on.
 
Egon said:
That's pretty much it... in the early days understanding of infection was zero. That includes how people became infected and that everyone was basically carrying a dormant virus.

It only takes 1 infected to destroy a military base if people don't understand how it the virus works.
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Two points, I actually think the not knowing a head shot is the only way to kill them was a bigger factor, but given social media in this day and age, I think both the head shot and the 'anyone dead turns' would have been known quite quickly.

Secondly, especially with the above, I still think one zombie doesn't turn a hole military base before a few people start tooling up and taking them down.
 
I don't even remember what the creators promised this show would deliver but I was under impression that a large emphasis would be covering the first 2 months or so before TWD started to fill in some of the holes and show us how the civilization has collapsed. Certainly wasn't expecting the origin of the virus since the forte of many zombie storylines is that it's always left ambiguous but the fall of civilsation is very poorly handled.

This show does demonstrate a lack of budget to be fair as production values are low so that's more than likely what is holding it back. As it stands the storyline was the outbreak with couple of riots, then military turn up to the 'burbs out of nowhere and immediately became a tyrannical mish mash of poorly disciplined stereotypes. Then somehow we hear absolutely nothing about fighting or the breakdown of society in a second biggest city and metropolitan area in US where you would expect one of the worst outbreaks.

Show then doesn't demonstrate anything from military point of view and issues they had to deal with as well as reasons why they proved ineffective against this zombie outbreak. No real talk of logistical problems, desertion rates or even suicide but on the bright side we can at least see that apparently US military is made up of incompetent officers and barely able to control themselves undisciplined rabble that makes up its soldiers. We can also see that clearly all assault engineers got eaten first, as a time bomb of a stadium wasn't reinforced in any way and base was hardly well protected in the last episodes. That or more poor writing that has plagued the original show.

In terms of characters they are far behind their TWD counterparts not to mention it suffers the same "pointless melodrama out of nowhere" syndrome. Essentially we are now at a stage where most of the juicy fall of civilisation stuff has happened so guess second season will be developing the characters none of us particularly care about as they face situations that challenges their humanity and they become a rag tag bunch of survivors in a sloppy seconds TV show about zombies.
 
Yeah I'm kind of disappointed on that aspect - it was supposed to show the breakdown but it skipped a lot of the early days i.e. suddenly long redundant missing posters, etc. appeared out of nowhere when only a couple of days earlier as per the timeline we were seeing stuff had started to happen.
 
Full season 1 is now on prime (better late than never) for anyone who might have missed watching it/wants to re-watch.
 
Rroff said:
Full season 1 is now on prime (better late than never) for anyone who might have missed watching it/wants to re-watch.
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Yeah caught it the other day, watched it all in one go and it was surprisingly good much better than I thought it would be.
 
I've mixed feelings about it - was some good stuff but they never fully utilised the potential IMO especially they could have spent a lot more time in the initial breaking down of society and the perspectives of more of the cast before bringing it all together in the military compound place as someone else mentioned it would have been great to see it i.e. from the perspective of someone working in the media industry, etc.
 
For anyone that is intrested all 16 parts of Flight 462 is available on youtube. It is a mini webseries that lasts one minute each which ties into FTWD when it restarts. At the end of 462, one character from this flight will join the main group.
 
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