US: Fear the Walking Dead

Is anyone aware of the time difference between the 2 shows?

It's a short season and I'm not sure they'll fit everything in that TWD hasn't explained, I want to see the breakdown of the government and the army. We know in a real life situation scientists would be performing autopsy on zombie bodies, I want to see that!
 
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Episode 2 made me hate the Mum even more and the Sister and the Ex wife of the guy... and both sons, come to think of it I really can't stand any of the main people in the show.

Will stick with it though in the hope they all get eaten! LOL! :D
 
Enjoyed episode 2 a bit more but I think there was a missed opportunity here.

I think this show is too small in it's scope and should have given us more perspectives of the situation. I would have liked to have seen local government and police / military perspectives. I guess more characters will be introduced as it goes along but the civil breakdown seen from different sides would have been nice. Once society really breaks down the surviving characters paths could have crossed.
 
Would like to have seen the Principle and the Boyfriend get bitten rather than just the explanation of... reasons... :(
 
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Is anyone aware of the time difference between the 2 shows?

It's a short season and I'm not sure they'll fit everything in that TWD hasn't explained, I want to see the breakdown of the government and the army. We know in a real life situation scientists would be performing autopsy on zombie bodies, I want to see that!

Basically when Rick wakes up it is 45 weeks into to the outbreak. FTWD is based in the first 45 weeks leading up to Rick's time.

The second season already confirmed so I am sure they will string it out. How much is another matter altogether.
 
If [when] there is a Zombie outbreak if people are as dumb as they are in this show we are all doomed. Will be watching next week for more stupidity in the face of danger

I think they are trying to get a balance between how people would react to something like that in reality but at the same time not have them all as survival experts that know exactly what is coming and how to deal with it.

I'm liking it so far though its not as gripping (yet) as the walking dead but it does seem to be taking a more intimate look at things unravelling in the first few weeks which is what I was hoping for though I'm yet to really care about any of the characters.

I like some of the more subtle touches as well like how the mum pauses to take a moment to look at the door to her office as she is starting to get the inkling that maybe she won't be going back to her regular life.

EDIT: I kind of hope they continue the theme in that the dad is smart enough to figure it out without necessarily seeing all parts of the puzzle whereas the mum isn't as quick on the uptake but figures it out through the messy experience of dealing with it more hands on.
 
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Basically when Rick wakes up it is 45 weeks into to the outbreak. FTWD is based in the first 45 weeks leading up to Rick's time.

The second season already confirmed so I am sure they will string it out. How much is another matter altogether.

Rick was in a coma for 45 weeks unaided? Wouldn't he have starved?
 
Rick was in a coma for 45 weeks unaided? Wouldn't he have starved?

Someone posted a timeline from script lines in different episodes on another forum that makes it sound like Rick was only unaided in the coma for around a month :

in episode 5 (Wildfire), Jenner says it is "Day 194 since wildfire was declared and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global". This would be the fourth day since Rick woke up. This means the disease has been spreading for over 6 months and has been an international pandemic for 2 months.

When he wakes up, Rick seems to have several weeks of beard stubble on his face, and the flowers on the nightstand have been dead for at least a couple of weeks. When he meets Morgan and they go to the police station, Morgan says the gas lines have been shut down for "maybe a month". Since the gas lines are in the same town as the hospital, we can assume the hospital shut down around the same time as the gas. In episode 6 (TS-19), Jenner says he has "been in the dark [meaning he hasn't had communications with anyone else] for almost a month". It is hard to believe the CDC would collapse as quickly as a small-town hospital in Georgia, but that seems to be the case.
 
Someone posted a timeline from script lines in different episodes on another forum that makes it sound like Rick was only unaided in the coma for around a month :

Here the full quote

They don't make it clear in the TV show or the comics, but in episode 5 (Wildfire), Jenner says it is "Day 194 since wildfire was declared and 63 days since the disease abruptly went global". This would be the fourth day since Rick woke up. This means the disease has been spreading for over 6 months and has been an international pandemic for 2 months.

When he wakes up, Rick seems to have several weeks of beard stubble on his face, and the flowers on the nightstand have been dead for at least a couple of weeks. When he meets Morgan and they go to the police station, Morgan says the gas lines have been shut down for "maybe a month". Since the gas lines are in the same town as the hospital, we can assume the hospital shut down around the same time as the gas. In episode 6 (TS-19), Jenner says he has "been in the dark [meaning he hasn't had communications with anyone else] for almost a month". It is hard to believe the CDC would collapse as quickly as a small-town hospital in Georgia, but that seems to be the case.

The problem is that none of this tells us anything about how long Rick was comatose, only how long he was comatose AFTER the hospital was overrun - about a month. The stubble on his face proves that, but the hospital (or Lori) could have been shaving him while he was in the coma right up until the hospital went down.

In the first episode (Days Gone Bye), just before Rick gets shot, he and Shane are chatting about women and relationships. That would lead me to believe the disease is not in the USA yet, as they would be preoccupied with handling the outbreak (they ARE cops, and cops would be the first responders in a zombie crisis), or at least DISCUSSING it.

So if "wildfire" began outside the US, and only got to the US when it 'abruptly went global', Rick was probably in the coma for at least 2 months - at least one month while the hospital was still operational, and about one month after it was abandoned. If 'wildfire' began in the US, however, Rick has probably been in the coma for about 6 months - 5 months before the hospital shut down, and one month after.

In any case, we can be sure that he wasn't in the coma for more than a month or so after the hospital was abandoned. Although he WAS hooked up to an IV fluid drip, those bags only last a few hours to a day at most before going dry. Tube feeding would have stopped immediately upon the nurses leaving the hospital.

It is true that a person can live without food for over 2 months (though they usually lose consciousness after a month or so), and possibly longer if they are in a coma; however, we die very quickly without water. Even in relatively cool weather, going as little as 3 days without fluids can be fatal, and very few people have survived more than a couple of weeks without drinking. I've never heard of anyone living for a month without water, but it might be possible. Anything more than a few weeks to a month and Rick would never have woken up.

The only other possibility is that Rick was shot AFTER the disease became a global problem, and yet he somehow heard nothing about the outbreak or the zombies until he woke up and found Morgan.
 
Most hospitals have emergency generators that can run for several days - IIRC my local hospital runs a weeks worth of reserve diesel.

As it seems like a relatively remote town it could be that the real impact of the disease took awhile to really make the news there and likewise fairly late on that it took a hold there - combined with the hospital looked like the scene of something of a last stand likely amongst the last places still holding out until it fell - along with the state of the flowers and that some emergency lighting is still on I'd guess its more like 10 days since Rick was last attended to. Though he was definitely comatose for atleast a month (can pretty much assume that even if he was still attended to once the disease was spreading locally they'd have been too busy to do things like shave him just the essentials).
 
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The premise and potential are great but this is quite frankly proving to be a poor show. I know it's early day but this didn't look impressive from the trailers and more than failing to deliver from the bat.

Acting is plain amateurish in places from side characters, chemistry non existent between main ones, production values are low and what in god is this awful hazy filter they are using over everything? Scenes don't make sense and I don't mind slow pace, but the build up is very poorly executed. End of the world is coming yet all I can feel building up is my irritation at hints of already pointless soap opera drama that will hit the cast.

One zombie we see up close, I wish I didn't, looked like something out of an old Romero film from the bygone era.
 
Characters and chemistry I'll give you - I can barely even remember any of the character names let alone develop any kind of attachment to them.

Pretty much every scene makes sense however - some maybe not so much in their own right but set up a later scene - though some take some stringing together and some are for contrast that might not become apparent until later on - after the second episode I started to put some bits together which seemed completely extraneous at first. There is a surprising amount of subtle stuff in there which I'm kind of surprised I even caught onto as normally it goes over my head - some kind of throw away semi-humorous touches but some that goes deeper.

The whole rioting thing seemed a bit odd though - that needed a lot more development to really make much sense at this point.
 
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It's more a case that character reactions just don't bode well with the scenes, the purpose is there but again poorly executed.

Rioting is probably contextual with recent cases of tension between police and the public, some minorities in particular. Who knows maybe the whole zombie thing here is just a front for representing the voiceless masses who want change but have now completely fallen into a state of inaction, political apathy and disillusion :P
 
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