Ferrari launch thread

oh dear :(

a grid full of ugly cars bar the mclaren, i cant see redbull doing this wierd nose either tbh.


wonder how hard it will be to change this new nose in a pit stop.
 
Skeeter said:
The above is completely incorrect.
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No it really is not, the highest part of the Ferrari nose is inside the regulations, all they need to do is taper the front nose down to the lowest measurement without the bump. Not sure why you find that incorrect really :)
 
The top of the slope is the front of the carbon tub. The bottom of the slop is the furthest point back that can be at that height. To be able to smooth out the nose but stay within the regulations the only option is to lower the hight of the front of the carbon tub.

And this requires a new tub design, which requires new crash tests and new homoligation.
 
Skeeter said:
The top of the slope is the front of the carbon tub. The bottom of the slop is the furthest point back that can be at that height. To be able to smooth out the nose but stay within the regulations the only option is to lower the hight of the front of the carbon tub.

And this requires a new tub design, which requires new crash tests and new homoligation.
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You are wrong, but I really can't be bothered :)

The top of the tub simply does not need to change.
 
If the top of the tub is at the 62.5cm height, and the nose is at the 55cm height, they have something like 15cm of nose length to get a 7.5cm drop in. This creates the step.

The only way to smooth this step is to drop the tub height down from 62.5cm.

Your insistence on arguing with me at every opportunity is getting in your way of understanding the regulations. Go read Scarbs write-up and come back when you are better educated.
 
i think hes trying to say that just before the slope starts on the wing is the furthest point at which it can be that hight, it then has to get up to the hight of the tub in a set distance which is why such a slope.

so the tub would have to be lowered to start were the nose starts now without the slope because the nose cant go any higher.
 
Skeeter said:
Your insistence on arguing with me at every opportunity is getting in your way of understanding the regulations. Go read Scarbs write-up and come back when you are better educated.
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hahahahahaha what a joke, adding you to ignore as I really cba
 
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http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7479271/Reaction-Ferrari-s-F2012

Sky Sports' Technical Analyst Mark Hughes has identified the F2012's front suspension as the most significant change in Ferrari's radically-different design concept for the new season.

Although focus on the team's new charger has immediately fallen on its sharply-declining 'boxer's nose', Hughes believes that the car's overall design will represent a greater departure in design lineage than will be the case at either McLaren or Red Bull.

Though certainly not an attractive creation, the F2012 may thus yet prove to be one of the most interesting - and possibly innovative - cars on the grid.

"It's no beauty, is it? The way they've incorporated the new front nose height regulation is much more brutal than on the McLaren, more like the Caterham. But there's probably less to that than meets the eye. Of more significance is the front suspension - which is pull-rod rather than the more common push-rod, which is quite a radical change," commented Hughes to Sky Sports.

"Short sidepods, like the McLaren as the aero teams seek to keep the airflow attached to the body along the car's 'coke bottle' contours on its way to the rear wing and over the diffuser, compensating as best they can for the disappearance of exhaust-enhanced aerodynamics."

Ferrari have been badly hampered in recent seasons - and particularly in 2011 - by their struggle to put heat into their tyres, and Hughes belives that the radical-looking new look has, in part, been inspired by the need to fix that fault.

"Being the first design overseen by Pat Fry, and with the very clear recognition he had of the 2011 car's limitations, I'd expect this one to behave quite differently - though that isn't from anything that can be seen on the car. But I'd expect the kinematics of the suspension to be designed to work the front tyres more, to get heat in them faster than Ferraris of the previous few years, and give them a performance pattern more like their rivals.

"Ferrari's 2012 car will probably represent more of a break with the team's design lineage than is the case at either McLaren or Red Bull. Whether that's a good thing or bad remains to be seen."
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Overlag said:
how are these nose cones safer? The FIA wanted lower nose cones to increase safety yet we get these extremely skinny spears and odd shaped front ends instead. Horrible looks, and i unsure if this is safer than before :(
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Its to stop high noses in side (or T bone) impacts hitting the drivers.

The old regulations allowed a nose tip that was at the same height as the cockpit sides. It was therefore possible that in a T bone style crash the nose of one car could pass over the cockpit sides and strike the drivers helmet.

Reducing the nose height means it will impact with the sidepod or the side of the carbon tub instead, which is safer. The nose cones are designed to crumple in a crash, so are unlikely to pierce the sidepod or tub, but the impact alone to a helmet would be serious.

The horrible looks are from the teams interpretation of the rules in keeping the tub at the maximum height right to the end. The rules have not dictated these looks, the teams have just chosen to go with them for their own reasons. The McLaren proves this.
 
It looks like they had a design ready to go, then someone pointed out that the nose was too high, so they went back to AutoCAD and dropped it down and submitted the design.

Worst Ferrari in years IMO :p
 
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