FIFA World Cup 2014 - GROUP D [Uruguay, Costa Rica, England, Italy - 14/19/20/24 June] **spoilers**

Wilshere is far too lightweight. He has been pathetic tonight. If the ball gets away from him he just throws himself to the floor.
 
"andy" said:
Did anyone see oxlaide.chamberlain complete a pass tonight ?

I just seen ten seperate slow motion replays of him taking it past a couple of players then losing possession
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Thats his job.to take on players mate not to p about passing it backwards

Russinating said:
LADS LADS LADS!

Who cares. It's for the captain and nobody else to deal with the situation. Hate it when football is like this when you compare it to rugby.
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if someone grabbed my mates throat i'd deck him :)
 
dacads said:
19 goals and 300k a week? I'd call that both overpaid and overrated. No reason to play him on both friendlies when the rest of the team was changed
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When you consider that Ronaldo/Messi are scoring 2-3 times that amount of very similar amounts a week now, then yes 19 goals when you're on 300k a week is rather poor. Multiple players get in that 15-20 goal a season bracket and most of them are on 50-150k depending on the club, what makes Rooney stand out as a 300k a week player, nothing at all basically. Maybe it's when he drops deep, insists on being given the ball and then gifting it back to the opposition.

You're going to score more for utd than if he was playing for Cardiff, Stoke or even Spurs. Rooney has in the league only had 3 seasons in 10 in which he's scored more than 1 goal every 2 games.

he's an okay striker, he's a poor playmaker, he is relatively good on the left wing.

In his first few years he got the ball and would run towards goal, pace and power, not based on technical skill(he's not a step over to beat a player type guy, he's a "i'm heavier than you and running at pace and you'll bounce off me" type of guy). he's looked very good as a striker up top NOT dropping deep all the time, he looked great wide left, with Ronaldo wide right, with Tevez or Berbatov as the central player both wide men played off. As the number 10, he looks ineffective and poop.

He plays for Utd, the consistently best team in the league the entire time he's been with them. Take any striker and stick them in that team and they'll score a decent amount.

As for his goals in world cup qualifying, again, it's due to being played, not being exceptionally good. Crouch scored a buttload for England as well, qualifiers are against mostly woeful teams and regardless of which striker started most of those games they'd score a pretty decent number of goals.
 
This shouldn't be 2-2. England got a bit too relaxed after their second goal when they should have just kept up the pressure for the whole match.
 
"andy" said:
Did anyone see oxlaide.chamberlain complete a pass tonight ?

I just seen ten seperate slow motion replays of him taking it past a couple of players then losing possession
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I do keep forgetting he's only 20, so there is still a lot of potential there. I like his energy, and he makes the right runs a lot of the time, but his final ball/cross are mostly awful. He came back from injury and scored 2 goals in the league, but they were in almost the first game, against a poor side, he played very well and took both goals well. But throughout the entire rest of the season he failed to do it again.

I hope in the next 2-3 years we see more composure, better choice of passes/crosses and better finishing but he does look a bit headless chicken right now. His first big run in the team was the same. Came in had 2-3 really good games, then produced nothing for the next 15 games.

Before you remember he's only 20 you wonder if he looks exciting but is really just a bit poo, but he's definitely got time to improve and the majority of players improve a lot between 20-23, if they get a lot of games. That could be his biggest problem, I think he needs to improve very significantly and very quickly to actually get the starts he needs to turn into a really good player.
 
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