Filtering

[ttaskmaster]

A merc probably isn't the best car for trying that, they're normally very well insulated from outside sound. Try it again in a ford fiesta or something more run of the mill and it might be a different story.

Might as well stand by the roadside and see if we can hear the bike, then... This was about how hard it can be to hear a loud bike under fairly normal-ish driving conditions. This was basically how the Mrs drives when in a happy mood, music a bit loud, engine coming up to a shift-point (it's auto, so no real choice about that), windows up and driving through town areas.
This is an old M-reg Elegance by the way, not the newer C-Class, so probably still not as insulated as modern cars.

That insulation is exactly why we chose that car (and because it is the only one my wife owns, but hey...). Besides, more and more cars are advertising how well insulated from outside noise they are, so if that is the way things are going...
You don't get to choose what you pass on the road, do you? Better to test the worse case circumstances than the easir ones, because it will be the ones who cannot hear who are more likely to be a problem.

loud pipes do make cars more aware of your presence.

Loud pipes might make some cars more aware of your presence. Others quite simply will not be able to hear you, so ride accordingly. Kinda the same as assuming you've been seen just because you have headlight, hi-viz and a white lid.

 

[edd1e]

I had some fat **** in a brand new Jag' take offence to being overtaken.. so he decided to undertake me and carry on driving along side me on the left.

I just about resisted putting my size 12 Alpinestar boot into his door before blasting off into the distance.

I hate people.

 

[Flack88]

I had some fat **** in a brand new Jag' take offence to being overtaken.. so he decided to undertake me and carry on driving along side me on the left.

I just about resisted putting my size 12 Alpinestar boot into his door before blasting off into the distance.

I hate people.

It winds them up more when you just blitz them.

 

[wazza300]

you should have HiYaAaaa!!!!

best to slow right down and let them go,you get one of those types from time to time though

 

[TallPaul_S]

I had some fat **** in a brand new Jag' take offence to being overtaken.. so he decided to undertake me and carry on driving along side me on the left.

I just about resisted putting my size 12 Alpinestar boot into his door before blasting off into the distance.

I hate people.

Brand new jag you say? Obviously more entitled to his part of the road, no jolly bolly riff riff bikers on my watch I'll say!

Range rover drivers tend to be like this - they never ever move over, just sit there ignorantly, or purposely don't let you in. The "I paid more for my car so I am more entitled to use the road than you are" philosophy.

 

[edd1e]

that's pretty much the mindset of these drivers i think. Sad thing is I even guessed he might be one of them before overtaking.

Oh well, it makes me feel better thinking of them sat in the traffic

 

[TripleT]

you should have HiYaAaaa!!!!

best to slow right down and let them go,you get one of those types from time to time though

Take it you've seen the video to that screenshot? Biker goes flying to the right and falls off

 

[Scooby_WR1]

I am yet to come across anyone who dosent move over for me while filtering, if they don't hear me coming a quick blip on the throttle and they move over.

 

[Dogbreath]

Loud pipes might make some cars more aware of your presence. Others quite simply will not be able to hear you, so ride accordingly. Kinda the same as assuming you've been seen just because you have headlight, hi-viz and a white lid.

If I'm stuck in traffic then I can usually hear bikes approaching from behind no problem at all unless the stereo is cranked up.

 

[Sin_Chase]

I am still bewildered (but no longer shocked) daily at the lack of peoples situational awareness.

The other night I almost got taken out by someone moving from lane 1 into lane 2 where I was travelling at quite some pace. Only avoided by the fact I was not happy with the way he was sitting on the boot of the car infront of him and twitching in his lane, so I held back. Only for him to violently pull out into lane 2 without so much as a signal, nevermind rear observation check.

Even with full blue light equipment on in the pitch black people are oblivious to you. I don't know how, you can see the blues from 10s of miles away in the dark!

 

[ttaskmaster]

I am yet to come across anyone who dosent move over for me while filtering, if they don't hear me coming a quick blip on the throttle and they move over.

I get people moving over a lot... just sometimes they move the wrong way, on purpose. How DARE a bike push past, right?

If I'm stuck in traffic then I can usually hear bikes approaching from behind no problem at all unless the stereo is cranked up.

And THAT is the exact circumstance we were talking about.
Often people will hear and it isn't a problem... but equally often they don't hear at all or don't hear in time to do something about it, at which point it does become a problem.

 

[Scooby_WR1]

I have to admit that there have been times where I have been sitting in traffic and a bike has passed without me even hearing it.
I will never change lanes without checking the mirror and blind spot though, some people seem to think that their indicator gives them the right to move over and that really ****es me off.

 

[Yaayuh!]

some people seem to think that their indicator gives them the right to move over and that really ****es me off.

There are many like this, really gets on my nerves.

 

[bloodiedathame]

A great example as to why you shouldn't exceed circa 15mph when you filter. Could have been a whole lot worse.

 

[Craig321]

lol, lucky it was a bike & they just touched tyres!

 

[Zbornak]

I always make an effort to thank drivers who move over. They're essentially going out of their way to make our journeys easier which is almost exclusive to bikes and emergency vehicles - so they certainly deserve a thank you wave!

 

[ConTRo13R]

Same as above, I do the same route almost daily so if i come across the same drivers and they move over once, some appreciation goes a long way, makes drivers feel good about themselves for doing something nice (this is an incredibly powerful feeling to give a driver). Hopefully in future it will help with them moving over again, moving over for others or help out/be on side in the event of an incident.

 

[TripleT]

Yer I always thank people who purposely move over.

The way I see it is I do the same journey twice a day the same as nearly everyone else on my route. Bikers stand-out a hell of a lot more than some generic hatch-back.

"The guy on the silver bike with the top box and a white helmet" is a lot more obvious than "a red vauxhall"

Plus we generally overtake a lot of people so the chances of seeing the same people massively increases whereas cars are sandwiched between the same other cars for periods of time.

Therefore I don't try and **** people off on my normal commute and always am polite, karma and all that

 

[wazza300]

it annoys me tbh,those that purposely move over or crap themselves and over exaggerate when theres plenty of room to get by

much prefer them to stay still/where they are and ill get by myself

 

[TripleT]

Yer true some do do mental things, but at least you know they've noticed you so that's worth an acknowledgment if anything!

I'm so massively mellow and relaxed when riding, compared to how I am in the car it's night and day. I think now I ride I'm even more inpatient in the car as I'm thinking "If I was on my bike". Saying that this morning everyone was ****ing me off on my ride in