Finally, I get my day in court!
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Pretty impressive how some adults continue to live as absolute children. Instead of facing up to the fact that his life was most likely saved by you, he probably feels 'extreme stress' and just doesn't want to be involved.
Do you think you'll be bitter about this for the rest of your life? Every time your leg aches you'll curse the system and all those involved. Or do you think one day you will move on, possibly forgive and focus on the good things in your life? I can see it could turn into a downward spiral if you let it.
How is it that you can trip over on a lifted brick on the pavement and sue for tens of thousands for a twisted ankle, but you can have your head kicked in while actually becoming disabled for life and regardless of catching some involved you don't see a penny. Insurance I guess.
I’m sorry this happened to you and wish you a full recovery both mentally and physically.
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Possibly but some people simply just don't know what to say or how to act. Having been thrust into a position of managing people the last few years I'm a bit better equipped to deal with it these days but my younger self would have struggled to know what is/isn't appropriate in a situation like that or read how the other person is taking it, etc.
Soldato
I feel your pain. The system is a joke.
Someone sucker punched me and broke my jaw. He was already done for affray a year before yet all he got was a £1000 fine and 9 months suspended sentence.
I had a jaw tied shut and soup for 6 weeks. Everyone who knew the guy said he was a scumbag.
He was supposedly working low pay so paid me £60 a month. Some months £30.
It's an utter joke really.
Someone sucker punched me and broke my jaw. He was already done for affray a year before yet all he got was a £1000 fine and 9 months suspended sentence.
I had a jaw tied shut and soup for 6 weeks. Everyone who knew the guy said he was a scumbag.
He was supposedly working low pay so paid me £60 a month. Some months £30.
It's an utter joke really.
My younger brothers mate was sucker punched outside a nightclub and was killed. Guy got two years for manslaughter. Served one.
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one year for killing someone
and we have the nerve to say the middle eastern countries have it all wrong
A guy recently on BBC got six for a one punch kill, He will be out in 3? The system encourages criminals it actually is not fit for purpose look at London and knife crime. These guys should have been jailed until they reveal who thier mates are indefinite custody sentance.
Then they each can choose they can pay Vidar 25k each and get 2yr suspended sentances each or they do 6yrs jail each. But they cut deals like worms so they save money on jail. But all you are doing is encouraging these guys now to be out of jail and breed and have more criminals you can not afford to jail. Jail them and hefty fines will leave them with no time to breed and feed the kids Mc Donalds and frozen mc cains.
Idk about Karma i know evil people who thrive, What about people who died peacefully and were like Stalin? They get away with it in life. And these low iq individuals have no conscience anyways the reoffend rate proves this.
I do know of one or two cases of what you mentioned but only a few, I think this is where this saying and hope comes from actually
Possibly. It's dependent on how quickly, or even if the defendant cops to it. And how he behaves in prison. If they deny murder but plead guilty to manslaughter right out the gate (which happened with my brothers mates case) they'll get a heavily reduced sentence because they've acknowledge what they did and are sorry, blah blah blah. The longer a defendant fights either a manslaughter or murder charge throughout the process, the less favourable their sentencing will be.
Honestly, reading the judgement of my brothers mates case made me so angry. But the only people that can be blamed for it are the parliamentary council who actually write the laws and the politicians who vote them in after (allegedly) reading them. We've arrived at the point we have now with criminals for serious crime because, like the asylums, prisons cost money. So when they closed up the asylums they moved to "care in the community"... electronic tags and being "on license" is what they've done for prison cost cutting.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-51282526
Look how he behaved, Even if he has a surprise surprise... Low IQ he cashed in the mans betting slip after killing him with one punch. He still only got three years!!! I seen Cannabis grannys get two years suspended when there is no victim.
I'm really sorry to see these POS get away with what they did to you. Here's hoping they're wealthy and you can sue the arses off them.
Soldato
I know in order to make a judgement you need evidence based proof, but I'm not talking about that. I mean don't give any leniency - which is subjective and not burdened by requirement for proof - at all to people who it is obvious aren't cooperating. So they should have gone after the guys they did have, for something more than just affray.
Idk about Karma i know evil people who thrive, What about people who died peacefully and were like Stalin? They get away with it in life. And these low iq individuals have no conscience anyways the reoffend rate proves this.
I do know of one or two cases of what you mentioned but only a few, I think this is where this saying and hope comes from actually
I see what your saying, some people get away with whatever and die with a smile on their face.
Now does that favour the evolution or creationist arguement better?
Good questions, most of the time I'm pretty zen about things. It happened and I've just got to accept it, while it has many drawbacks there are some positives such as getting to see my baby girl grow up every day.
But then there are plenty of times were I'm not. My leg feels wooden, like a hunk of dead meat yet still manages to hurt almost unbearably so. I get constant infections and almost perpetual swelling which is very frustrating especially as it directly effects my mobility on the day.
I've got to accept what happened but I'll never forgive them because they've not shown even the slightest bit of remorse. They've not just robbed me of my mobility, self sufficiency etc. They've robbed me of kicking a ball round a field with my lad or getting down on the floor to play with my daughter etc.
Pity the main culprit is still unknown, and these two got off fairly lightly. Unfortunately, if you want to get this resolved then it looks like you'll have to find out who he is yourself, "DIY". I imagine a private detective could find him but they aren't cheap (you could possibly consider crowdfunding, as already mentioned), it depends how badly you want the guy caught.
Pity about your ex-colleague too but put it behind you. There are plenty of people like that around. Hopefully the next time you meet one, it won't matter so much.
All the best with the recovery, try not to let the legal circus distract you too much.
Pity about your ex-colleague too but put it behind you. There are plenty of people like that around. Hopefully the next time you meet one, it won't matter so much.
All the best with the recovery, try not to let the legal circus distract you too much.
So I've just been informed about the sentencing, haven't been given any details as to why they've come to the decisions that they have but just the black and white of it.
Both have been given 15 months suspended sentences for 2 years, One was given 200hrs community service the other was given 100hrs. I've not been awarded any compensation and I've been refused a restraining order.
I mean don't get me wrong I expected most of this as soon as Tuesday happened but the lack of compensation and restraining order has taken me a back, the witness care officer who contacted me was also really surprised. They thanked me for always playing ball with them though so that made all worth while, I can honestly say if I had to do all this over again I really wouldn't waste my time!
Both have been given 15 months suspended sentences for 2 years, One was given 200hrs community service the other was given 100hrs. I've not been awarded any compensation and I've been refused a restraining order.
I mean don't get me wrong I expected most of this as soon as Tuesday happened but the lack of compensation and restraining order has taken me a back, the witness care officer who contacted me was also really surprised. They thanked me for always playing ball with them though so that made all worth while, I can honestly say if I had to do all this over again I really wouldn't waste my time!
No surprise there, sadly.
Actual prison time these days seems to be a precious commodity reserved only for people who commit such heinous acts as climbing a tall building...
Tell me about, I'm crippled and scarred for life. I have a hard time getting out of the house, I keep having panic attacks as a result of everything that's gone on plus everything else. And these two get to walk away with **** all consequences while refusing to name the others. So much for the British justice system!