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First "FULL" review of Skylake

Orangey said:
I think a reality check is needed here, how many red flags can you brush off before you admit Skylake is tot. CPUs don't need drivers and timings don't mean jack.

Higher voltage, performing worse than 4790K even at same clocks, higher TDP, time to give up.
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Agreed, this is another one that people can skip if your already rocking Intel.

CPU progress was already at a snails pace, now it seems the snail has stopped, maybe even gone backwards a lil :D

Maybe this will give AMD a real chance at playing catchup with Zen next year.
 
Boomstick777 said:
Agreed, this is another one that people can skip if your already rocking Intel.

CPU progress was already at a snails pace, now it seems the snail has stopped, maybe even gone backwards a lil :D

Maybe this will give AMD a real chance at playing catchup with Zen next year.
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This^

Can't believe Intel is releasing a worst chip then 4790k?

Nothing to see here. Move along.
 
Orangey said:
I think a reality check is needed here, how many red flags can you brush off before you admit Skylake is tot. CPUs don't need drivers and timings don't mean jack.

Higher voltage, performing worse than 4790K even at same clocks, higher TDP, time to give up.
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But if the results are to be believed, then this chip is just basically crap all around.
Intel may not excite with their incremental gains, but they rarely go backwards.

I'll wait to see how this reviews, I've no interest in buying it though, but they'll deserve some flack if it's absolutely crap.
 
Orangey said:
1.4 will degrade a Sandy 32nm after only a year, so they must have done something. Very stringent QA on CPUs, not like GPUs.
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There are claims of a new voltage regulator underneath the chip, if the Voltage is measured going into the chip, then it might well be higher than the actual voltage the silicon is getting.
 
TBH I think we need to see what reviews from more reliable sources state. Won't be long now, guessing 2pm for the NDA lift?
 
People You forget that 4790k ware cherry picked chips from 4770k lines... You remember them epic 4770k that would not even do 4.4 no matter on what volts ??

Just wait for 6790k cherry picked off the line LOLOL...

That how game looks with only one real player on CPU market. Now I'm very happy that i went with X99 platform when it came out :D
 
Interesting quote:

"As we are seeing now, processor performance has reached a bottleneck where a multi-core processors don’t deliver significant benefits and applications more and more rely on single threaded and single core performance. Intel processors have great performance when it comes to single threads but multi-core designs such as the Core i7 and Core i5 don’t get utilized properly and we see slight gains when gaming on discrete graphics cards running a Core i7 and Core i5 processors. It is necessary for software developers and programmers to implement new methods to leverage performance by fully utilizing a piece of silicon whether it be CPU or GPU"
 
Well that makes me sad. I was hoping for a replacement for my 2500K... but I guess I'll just ramp the voltage and see what happens.

But I'm not giving up hope until the official/proper/retail-cpu reviews are out ^^;
 
I agree with that quote, but programmers are by and large under the thumb (at least when you look at gaming) to develop a product accessable by the largest market share possible, namely low spec to mid range systems.. where as high end/enthusiasts i.e. those sitting at the ceiling of 4th gen i7's or better are the minority.. you only need look at how much people can run off a g3258 (likely spend more on keeping it running cool than the cpu itself, its that cheap)

Of course it is a different ball game altogether when you look at more intensive stuff (editing etc) gaming was just an easy example to go with
 
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ye we need overclocking results
tho little strange the 2 older chips outperform it IPC
not a good chip if true
 
I am starting to think my Xmas upgrade will be X99

Am I right in thinking these only have 16 pcie 3 lanes?

I'm running three cards (r290), so does this pretty much make using this out of the question?

Unless there is some wizardry under the hood.. Reviews will tell all I suppose.

Currently have quite crippling bottlenecks using a 2600k and the slow and limited lanes that are with that, so don't want to go down that route again. No ma'am.
 
Apparently (correct me if I'm wrong) they will have 16 lanes for the GPU, and 20 non-CPU lanes for SSDs, and other expansion cards.
 
I will wait for a more comprehensive review but my three Haswell CPUs (4770k @ 4.2GHz, 4770K @ 4.4GHz & 4670K @ 4.0GHz) don't look like they will need replacing any time soon. Only thing that really tempts me is the 5820K but X99 is too expensive for the "gains" in gaming.
 
Boomstick777 said:
4790K still best for gaming then, as a few of us thought, little performance increase. Behind in some things.

The Skylake refresh (Kaby Lake) next year should bring the 6790K, that would be a better 4790K replacement, although imho X99 is still the best way to go if your spending that kind of money, unless your specifically building a low power small form factor PC. In that scenario Skylake will be ideal.

Skylake i5 + cheap mobo will be new gaming sweet spot, X99 for high end stuff.

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Correct. Above i5, X99 is king even considering price with 5820K performing crazy well. It has extra cores, threads and native PCI X lanes. As well as this quad channel, soldered IHS and greater possibilities for upgrade.

Not only is it very close on gaming its much faster in anything such as encoding, photoshop ,rendering and video editing. Games requiring cores, physics etc also get a great boost.
 
Rowlii said:
Apparently (correct me if I'm wrong) they will have 16 lanes for the GPU, and 20 non-CPU lanes for SSDs, and other expansion cards.
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Correct. CPU lanes much faster. But SSD etc etc dont need as fast lanes as GPU's.
 
6700k 1.3v all can do 4.5, 1.35v expect 4.6-4.7+ 1.4 expect 4.7-4.8+, Uncore can run high one on one with cache. mems high 3300mhz working on all MB I tried.

Intel white paper says 1.5v is OK but thermal limit will be hit way before this. I would suggest 1.35-1.375 good air or IO water. 1.4v custom water. I discussed these voltages with both ASUS and Gigabyte engineers and we all agree.
 
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