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First "FULL" review of Skylake

At this point I can't see what value a Core i7 mainstream chip brings, especially considering OCUK are selling the 4970k at the same price of a 5820k and I doubt the pricing of Skylake will be any different. I'll wait out for the full reviews to hit but I really can't see many people upgrading to Skylake if the early ones turn out to be prevailing results.

The only good to come out is that the still born Skylake means AMD has a got a chance of catching up with 14nm Zen.
 
Yeah Kaby Lake is the refresh of Skylake before Cannonlake arrives (Cannonlake is releasing later than first planned).

Like Devil's Canyon was to Haswell 4770K > 4790K..

Expect the refresh chip will be called 6790K and come with much higher stock clocks, mid way through next year.

DC was part of Haswell. So far it seems like Kaby lake is a second tick in a row due to Cannonlake being delayed so not the same thing, though it remains to be seen if they actually make any architectural changes or if it'll actually end up like DC - though Intel so far are suggesting it's actually different so we can remain optimistic if we want :p
 
I'd really like Skylake-E with decent 4GHz+ stock clocks, none of this 3 clock stuff, and released sooner rather than later. As for Kaby Lake, I'm not holding my breath, seems like a placeholder to me.
 
I'd really like Skylake-E with decent 4GHz+ stock clocks, none of this 3 clock stuff, and released sooner rather than later. As for Kaby Lake, I'm not holding my breath, seems like a placeholder to me.

The Q6600 become popular once the 'D0' chips came along but Intel didn't make a song and dance about it. Intel were just a bit better at making Q6600's leak less so they could overclock better. It looks like these minor changes aren't so minor these days and as a result some cleaver dick at Intel's marketing department worked out they could repackage the same CPU as 'new' when all actual fact it's just a re-brand, exactly the same as what Nvidia and AMD does with there GPU's.
 
6700k 1.3v all can do 4.5, 1.35v expect 4.6-4.7+ 1.4 expect 4.7-4.8+, Uncore can run high one on one with cache. mems high 3300mhz working on all MB I tried.

Intel white paper says 1.5v is OK but thermal limit will be hit way before this. I would suggest 1.35-1.375 good air or IO water. 1.4v custom water. I discussed these voltages with both ASUS and Gigabyte engineers and we all agree.

If this is true i sincerely doubt that you can reach 5+ ghz like intel said before, but maybe this voltage come because is a new architecture and the new pcb's are still not well developed, firm issues. It was dc the one who came at 1.3 and later patched went down to 1.2v?

Like alway sorry for my english, when i try to go to technical explanation i'm just unable to explain all correctly :p
 
6700k 1.3v all can do 4.5, 1.35v expect 4.6-4.7+ 1.4 expect 4.7-4.8+, Uncore can run high one on one with cache. mems high 3300mhz working on all MB I tried.

Intel white paper says 1.5v is OK but thermal limit will be hit way before this. I would suggest 1.35-1.375 good air or IO water. 1.4v custom water. I discussed these voltages with both ASUS and Gigabyte engineers and we all agree.

thx for share^^;
hmhm
 
So as I suspected my 4690K will last me easily until next years Skylake refresh, even Cannonlake in 2017.

If it just meant replacing the CPU on a Z97 board most people would go for it, but add in the cost of a new Mobo and DDR4 it's just not worth it.
 
Intel taking the **** with no competition.

I'm still somewhat annoyed at the sly con job they pulled with Broadwell for people like me who bought into Z97 Devils Canyon with the prospect of one more worthwhile upgrade before needing a new socket.

If AMD get it together with Zen by the time I'm willing to upgrade my current rig, I could easily see myself switching to them in a somewhat meaningless but satisfying act of revenge.:)
 
6700k 1.3v all can do 4.5, 1.35v expect 4.6-4.7+ 1.4 expect 4.7-4.8+, Uncore can run high one on one with cache. mems high 3300mhz working on all MB I tried.

Intel white paper says 1.5v is OK but thermal limit will be hit way before this. I would suggest 1.35-1.375 good air or IO water. 1.4v custom water. I discussed these voltages with both ASUS and Gigabyte engineers and we all agree.

Thanks very much for the info
 
I'm happy with my 5930k. Think I will be for the foreseeable future too.

Hopefully these results for skylake are too early to tell though.
 
Overall, Skylake is not an earth shattering leap in performance. In our IPC testing, with CPUs at 3 GHz, we saw a 5.7% increase in performance over a Haswell processor at the same clockspeed

That's sad.
 
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