Five-year-old boy lives as girl in youngest case of Gender Identity Disorder

fus said:
The only problem with this is that the title of 'psychologist' doesn't mean anything. You're right; anybody can call themselves a psychologist, just like anybody can call themselves a homeopathist, nutritionist, and so on.

However, (most) real medical professionals don't recognise homeopathists, and most real Psychologists don't recognise those without the required qualification.

e: I read another post where you basically said this. However the term 'Educational and Child Psychologist' is. There's a lot of BS out there, sadly :(
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I read your post before the edit and was wondering why you were quoting me and seemingly arguing against me yet I was displaying exactly what you were saying.

Yea, a lot of nonsense out there regarding terms and lots of confusion that can be dangerous. Like hurfdurf showed, he thought psychologist was a protected term and therefore just because a psychologist said it, it may hold a certain air of intregrity whereas it may just be the inane ramblings of a fool.

Though, whilst educational psychologist is a proteted title, educational and child psychologist is not. I'm unsure of the legal implications of using a protected title in a longer title but I'd imagine it'd be frowned upon if you weren't a qualified and registered educational psychologist.
 
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P.S. If anybody is interested, here are the proposed revisions for GID in the new (not yet released) DSM; V:

A. A marked incongruence between one’s experienced/expressed gender and assigned gender, of at least 6 months duration, as manifested by at least 6* of the following indicators (including A1): [2, 3, 4]

1. a strong desire to be of the other gender or an insistence that he or she is the other gender (or some alternative gender different from one's assigned gender) [5]

2. in boys, a strong preference for cross-dressing or simulating female attire; in girls, a strong preference for wearing only typical masculine clothing and a strong resistance to the wearing of typical feminine clothing [6]

3. a strong preference for cross-gender roles in make-believe or fantasy play [7]

4. a strong preference for the toys, games, or activities typical of the other gender [8]

5. a strong preference for playmates of the other gender [9]

6. in boys, a strong rejection of typically masculine toys, games, and activities and a strong avoidance of rough-and-tumble play; in girls, a strong rejection of typically feminine toys, games, and activities [10]

7. a strong dislike of one’s sexual anatomy [11]

8. a strong desire for the primary and/or secondary sex characteristics that match one’s experienced gender [12]

B. The condition is associated with clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning, or with a significantly increased risk of suffering, such as distress or disability.**

Subtypes

With a disorder of sex development [14]

Without a disorder of sex development]
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Guess Wiki was not quite as descriptive as it should have been!
 
fus said:
Guess Wiki was not quite as descriptive as it should have been!
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new, not released yet. :confused: so wiki is right.

Also only 6of them.

2,3,4 & 5 are bs and should be on there. Huge numbers of society do that and have no intention of thinking or wanting to be a different sex. That's 4 of your 6 instantly.
It's called being a tomboy for girls and has nothing to do with gender confusion.
 
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Glaucus said:
new, not released yet. :confused: so wiki is right.

Also only 6of them.

2,3,4 & 5 are bs and should be on there. Huge numbers of society do that and have no intention of thinking or wanting to be a different sex. That's 4 of your 6 instantly.
It's called being a tomboy for girls and has nothing to do with gender confusion.
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While I probably agree with you regarding the case in question, generally speaking I couldn't disagree more.
 
This thread highlights how so many people are so clueless, ignorant, unsympathetic and basically dogmatic in their views, I guess some things are just too hard to believe but they forget that we're not all perfectly sound, body and mind in this world.

I guess it's a simple case of being a moron.
Can't really cure that though, easy to diagnose.
 
ChrisJSY said:
This thread highlights how so many people are so clueless, ignorant, unsympathetic and basically dogmatic in their views, I guess some things are just too hard to believe but they forget that we're not all perfectly sound, body and mind in this world.

I guess it's a simple case of being a moron.
Can't really cure that though, easy to diagnose.
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It should be people my age who are stuck in their ways but I'm not.
This sort of stuff has been going on for decades and there isn't much you can do about it.
My wife has just had her old gay Uncle die at the age of 83 and her Dad use to tell similar stories about him and no matter how they tried to 'man him up' it was never going to happen.
Some people are just born wrong.
 
What kinda damn kid knows the difference between a girl and a boy down there at his age?

Honestly this world is going to the dogs.
 
Dimple said:
It should be people my age who are stuck in their ways but I'm not.
This sort of stuff has been going on for decades and there isn't much you can do about it.
My wife has just had her old gay Uncle die at the age of 83 and her Dad use to tell similar stories about him and no matter how they tried to 'man him up' it was never going to happen.
Some people are just born wrong.
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Nobody is born wrong. We should accept everyone for who they feel they are.
 
It really isn't a case of homophobia as some have said. The issue many seem to have is such a judgement being passed about a 5 year old.

Many of us have either raised children or had family members raise children and know how little grasp of reality a 5 year old has.

I read one comment online "If a 5 year old wants to be a cat you don't start feeding it Whiskas" which I think is apt.
 
ChrisJSY said:
This thread highlights how so many people are so clueless, ignorant, unsympathetic and basically dogmatic in their views, I guess some things are just too hard to believe but they forget that we're not all perfectly sound, body and mind in this world.

I guess it's a simple case of being a moron.
Can't really cure that though, easy to diagnose.
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I have no idea who you're directing that at, or what your point is. Do you want to clarify?
 
cm1179 said:
you're not?
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No.

e: I guess you're saying that Wikipedia is not a place to quote. In which case, I'd agree. That was exactly my point; 'Wikipedia is not as accurate as it should have been'...[to be used as a cited reference for outlining diagnostic criteria] and that is why I posted the real (yes, proposed, but that section of the new book is not being considered for editing or revisions so it's pretty much a given that it will be the new 'go to' manual) criteria in which diagnoses are referenced against.

Maybe I misunderstood you.
 
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