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Do you work in the sex industry? Serious question
Five-year-old boy lives as girl in youngest case of Gender Identity Disorder
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Do you work in the sex industry? Serious question
It does not appear that anyone has done this and I completely agree that that would be foolish, a diagnosis of GID is not the be all and end all and is quite reverseable.
He is 5.
He doesnt know anything at 5, certainly not enough about self determination and the implications of what he is saying for someone to declare with great authority that this child wants to be a girl.
Its mental talk.
Yes, don't take the thread off topic though please, I have tried to be open about it in the past and gotten mostly stick from posters in threads and then about just as many emails as posts asking questions. Seems in public most people want to deride you, in private people want to know more and be educated. If you would like to ask questions feel free to email me via trust.
Did you know you wanted to breath oxygen at 5?
Yes, absolutely, the diagnosis itself is nonsense though.
Simply because of the stage of the development of the child, he's just being 5, and better parents would have nailed this behavior down on day one.
How so, what would better parents have done?
Incorrect. The term 'Psychologist' isn't a protected term. Whilst some types of psychologist are (clinical, educational, and a couple more) protected, the title in itself is not and nor is the title of 'Child Psychologist'.
I'm not labelling the child as male, I'm stating that the child is of too young an age to determine his desires in a meaningful and universal manner. He doesn't need to be diagnosed with anything to be aware of his mannerisms. He should be allowed to express himself in numerous ways, including that of dressing as a woman. However, by giving him such a diagnosis we are saying that what he currently feels is true and will remain true for a decent period of time (if not his entire life). I just can't see how this can be appropriate for someone of such a young age whos wishes and desires can change all the time.
Even if he demonstrated such behaviour for a prolonged period of time I doubt he has the mental capacity to understand his choices let alone appreciate the effect that it'll have on his life.
ok, go ahead and cut his nuts off. this thread has become ****.
You said, and I quote, "He doesnt know anything at 5", I am fairly certain all 5 year olds know to breath in and out. Most know how to walk and talk at that age as well.
Not entertained it.
When the child has the mental development to exibit self determination then yes, by all means you can be taken seriously.
What an absurd thing to say.
So the kid is miserable, dislikes traditionally male gender orientated clothing and cartoons, but they should have forced him to sit through such things?
He doesnt "know" how to breathe in and out, he "knows" he breathes in and out.
Theres a difference.
Thy only person I knew with GID said they knew from a very young age, but also always theorised that his mother may have been partially responsible- a combination of nature and nurture. As by far the most educated person on the subject I've met, I'm inclined to agree with him, though I do think that 5 is too young to make any medical diagnosis. That said, you face more and more pressure from society's expectations as you get older, and this person was eventually driven to attempt suicide before leaving the country to start a new life abroad.
Fortunately, the kind of people who became his close friends though life were very open minded and accepting individuals, and the only one who took any serious offence did so because they were upset that he didn't feel he could have told then years before.
I'm no expert on the topic, but I suspect I know a fair bit more about it than most gd armchair psychologists.
Fortunately, the kind of people who became his close friends though life were very open minded and accepting individuals, and the only one who took any serious offence did so because they were upset that he didn't feel he could have told then years before.
I'm no expert on the topic, but I suspect I know a fair bit more about it than most gd armchair psychologists.
I believe you started it.
"did you know you wanted to breath oxygen when you were 5?"
"why should a gay 5-year old be straightened out?"
Beautiful.
Exactly, on top off that what does diagnosis acheive. Other than other people changing their behaviour which encourages the child.
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Yes, because nature makes me, some things like that you cannot change...
I bet if the kid had watched some other form of cartoon all the time instead of dora then he would have been pretending to be something else.
Also, regarding your line of work, im sure you see all sorts of things which we dont need to discuss, however all those involved are of adult age and have gone through life. This child is 5 years old, has not gone through puberty (which if he had and still wanted to be a girl i would accept) however he has not, its bad parenting at the end of the day
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G Volans said:
I think my feelings have been summed up perfectly by someone on the Telegraph thread.