Football 5th-6th Feb 2011 **SPOILERS**

A question to those of you who will no doubt flame me: If i'd have come to you in July and said your team would be unbeaten until February, would you have taken it, no matter who you ended up losing to?
Good question, people seem to forget perspectives very quickly.

For instance imagine asking some of the Gunner fans posting 'untied just need to drop moar poinz and then we r champs lolz' what they would've thought of being title contenders at the start of the season. Or a Chelski fan what he would've thought of having to contemplate not remaining within the fop four if his team don't pick it up after the start they had.
 
Are you trying to say UTD lost today because Wolves are good? Arsenal went unbeaten because they had great group experienced pro's with most of them in their prime. OTOH UTD have struggling along with Evans in defense, very little cover at wing-back, and central midfielders that are either average or well past their best. TBH I can't understand how they went this far without been hammered as they have been dreadful in so many games.

I think it was a combination of sheer persistance and teams mentally caving under, or worrying themselves and thus losing concentration, with the idea that United were sure to nick a goal back. It's almost self-fulfilling. Wolves had it happen at OT, so I guess this time round at home, the players were completely up for it and didn't falter towards the end of the game.
 
You can say what you like about Arsenal but they didn't have any good competition at the time, it was just so easy for them. It's akin to putting the current Arsenal team in the Scottish First Division for a season.

Impressive achievement none-the-less, but I doubt it'll be repeated. The circumstances were perfect for Wenger and his men

I would say the thing that makes an unbeaten season so impressive is keeping your own consistency over a season, as we see every single year, the top teams always have 4 or 5 games where they're not at the races at all, due to fatigue or momentary lack of form, and in those weeks anybody can beat you, they don't have to be a top team they just have to put a good shift in, it doesn't matter about the strength of the league as much.
 
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Obviously our team isn't good enough to go unbeaten but would have preferred to lose to a team playing well rather than us playing absolutely woefully.

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I would say the thing that makes an unbeaten season so impressive is keeping your own consistency over a season, as we see every single year, the top teams always have 4 or 5 games where they're not at the races at all, due to fatigue or momentary lack of form, and in those weeks anybody can beat you, they don't have to be a top team they just have to put a good shift in, it doesn't matter about the strength of the league as much.

If the standard of the league is lower, you don't have to keep your own standard so high.

Or are you trying to say that it would be just as easy to go unbreaten in the EPL as say, League One?
 
Carrick was painfully bad today it has to be said. Fletcher is a workhorse defensively but you don't expect anything going forward from him. Carrick however... it's like playing with 10 men these days, I used to to rate him but he does nothing productive these days.
 
Bah. Who wants an unbeated season? The best epl season was chelsea with a record number of points. ;)

To be honest, if Man U did go unbeating, would anyone really be calling them the "invincibles"? They have looked dead and buried so many this season. should have had 3 or 4 defeats so far.

We can still go unbeating at home. Only if we played away like we do at home... the league would be over by now.
 
People calling for Wengers head :D hahaha

Why exactly? Lots of people have wanted him out for years, and more and more every few games want him out.

The biggest difference between the invincibles and the team today, is Wenger. The same things that cost us the league year on year, are the same mistakes Wenger has never learnt from for 10 years now.

Horrific, just horrific substitutions, an almost utter inability to change the game these days, if it starts going badly, it just continues to go downhill, tactically inept. We play a 4-5-1, but we don't see to have any coherant closing down system, we have constant holes to be run through and EVERY half decent team consistantly does so.

What we've needed for 4 years, a couple uber high quality defenders, yes he lucked out on Vermaelen, but Squillaci/Kos are barely good enough as backup. Same old players costing us every game, same incredibly poor substitutions costing us repeatedly.

Theo Walcott is the single worst winger Arsenal have ever had, he can't hold the ball, he can't pass, or cross, he can barely shoot, he's a striker, he's never been anything but. We required one thing today, not fantastic passing football, not to score another 4 goals, we required posession in the second half to slow the game down. So we consistantly knocked it long to RVP who rarely wins headers, or to Theo to run down the wing, pretty much the only two things we shouldn't have done at all in the second half.
 
Walcott was awesome in the first half today. :confused:

Also, getting rid of Wenger would be a huge mistake for arsenal.
 
As an outsider I still feel Wenger needs to do better in the transfer market. Squillaci / Koscielny are not good enough players for where Arsenal should/need to be. I was under the impression that Arsenal are pretty rich so I don't understand why they don't ***** 20m on a quality CB, DMF and GK, or at least filling one of these slots a season, and eventually just winning the league.

They have so much quality up the pitch but at the back they are woeful. The back 5 they started with today is simply not good enough.
 
Koscielny will come good with time, he has good attributes that will make him a good player when coupled with a bit more experience. Squillaci though seemed like a last minute panic buy, I think he will leave in the summer and somebody more distinguished will come in.
 
As an outsider I still feel Wenger needs to do better in the transfer market. Squillaci / Koscielny are not good enough players for where Arsenal should/need to be. I was under the impression that Arsenal are pretty rich so I don't understand why they don't ***** 20m on a quality CB, DMF and GK, or at least filling one of these slots a season, and eventually just winning the league.

They have so much quality up the pitch but at the back they are woeful. The back 5 they started with today is simply not good enough.

Acording to this we aren't really that rich unless we're selling quality players or selling houses to people. Still, we had around £35million (i think) to spend last summer and as you mentioned we brought in two mediocre Center Backs. A player or two away from the title is a lot when wenger is the manager.
 
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