Football Banter Thread

Bigpig · 9 Mar 2022 at 05:29

Kante who?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1497619376220123137

CliffyG said:
Only possible explanation......

Certainly looks that way bunch of posts having a moan.

And was that a little dig at me since I was the only one that posted a 20min stat tweet.

Meh you know what forget about it. Go back back to yapping.

Edit: some nice stats

Bigpig · 10 Mar 2022 at 21:57

Bigpig · 11 Mar 2022 at 07:04

Ralf ralf are you OK lad?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1502036044673335300

adam cool dude · 11 Mar 2022 at 08:59

Imagine if Newcastle end up in the Europa Conference league. That would be funny.

ThestigGT999 · 17 Mar 2022 at 20:16

Arsenal Fan Claims Wenger Was A Better Manager Than Klopp | Agree To Disagree | @LADbible TV

robfosters · 17 Mar 2022 at 20:21

ThestigGT999 said:
Arsenal Fan Claims Wenger Was A Better Manager Than Klopp | Agree To Disagree | @LADbible TV

How are we deciding this, trophies?

ThestigGT999 · 17 Mar 2022 at 20:36

robfosters said:
How are we deciding this, trophies?

level of diificulty / trophies achieved, they talked about who did more with less

adam cool dude · 17 Mar 2022 at 20:48

robfosters said:
How are we deciding this, trophies?

This is about the best one I can think off. Nottingham Forest have had the best team outside of United/Liverpool. :cool:

omnomnom · 17 Mar 2022 at 22:04

robfosters said:
How are we deciding this, trophies?

Different eras of football. Wenger never had to deal with a state owned club spending billions. I mean Liverpool didnt win a league title with 97 (Ninety seven) points (won a champions league though) whereas Arsene won one with 78, Liverpool are 9 points off that with 9 to go and are SECOND which is insane in itself. We could finish on 93 points and still not win the league this season for context thats 3 more points then the "invincibles". Fergie for eg regularly won the league with points in the 70s and 80s...he also never got to 97 points. That and Wenger is like 20 odd years older lmao.

Footballs changed massively since the Oilgarchs etc came in. You cant lose 5 games anymore and win a title. I think its a silly argument to be honest and its one that doesnt really need to happen.

robfosters · 17 Mar 2022 at 22:06

omnomnom said:
Different eras of football. Wenger never had to deal with a state owned club spending billions. I mean Liverpool didnt win a league title with 97 (Ninety seven) points whereas Arsene won one with 78, Liverpool are 9 points off that with 9 to go and are SECOND which is insane in itself. We could finish on 93 points and still not win the league this season for context thats 3 more points then the "invincibles". Fergie for eg regularly won the league with points in the 70s and 80s...he also never got to 97 points.

Footballs changed massively since the Oilgarchs etc came in. You cant lose 5 games anymore and win a title. I think its a silly argument to be honest and its one that doesnt really need to happen.

Quite right, different eras no comparison. I think we can just settle on saying they are both 2 of the premier leagues greatest ever managers, along with Fergie. Pep maybe, but I’m not having Jose in that discussion.

omnomnom · 17 Mar 2022 at 22:10

robfosters said:
Quite right, different eras no comparison. I think we can just settle on saying they are both 2 of the premier leagues greatest ever managers, along with Fergie. Pep maybe, but I’m not having Jose in that discussion.

Its what annoys me when people say Klopp has only won one trophy. Well correct he has...that in itself against City is a hell of an achievement. How anyone can keep up with them is an achievement in itself and to be honest, whilst no one ever wants Liverpool to win the league they are lucky its even competitive given their respective spend.
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It wont matter next season though when City sign Haaland, a few dodgy commercial deals earning them 100mil more then United (im sure we agreed the biggest club in the PL) will sort his wages out on the books.

robfosters · 17 Mar 2022 at 22:15

omnomnom said:
Its what annoys me when people say Klopp has only won one trophy. Well correct he has...that in itself against City is a hell of an achievement. How anyone can keep up with them is an achievement in itself and to be honest, whilst no one ever wants Liverpool to win the league they are lucky its even competitive given their respective spend.
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It wont matter next season though when City sign Haaland, a few dodgy commercial deals earning them 100mil more then United (im sure we agreed the biggest club in the PL) will sort his wages out on the books.

Maybe one premier league, but Wenger, Jose and Pep never won a European cup with their clubs. Although we was 10 minutes away and it still hurts to this day

Martynt74 · 18 Mar 2022 at 11:08

To be fair, that Arsenal fan is hugely deluded from other fan events i've seen him in!

adam cool dude · 18 Mar 2022 at 11:26

omnomnom said:
Different eras of football. Wenger never had to deal with a state owned club spending billions. I mean Liverpool didnt win a league title with 97 (Ninety seven) points (won a champions league though) whereas Arsene won one with 78, Liverpool are 9 points off that with 9 to go and are SECOND which is insane in itself. We could finish on 93 points and still not win the league this season for context thats 3 more points then the "invincibles". Fergie for eg regularly won the league with points in the 70s and 80s...he also never got to 97 points. That and Wenger is like 20 odd years older lmao.

Footballs changed massively since the Oilgarchs etc came in. You cant lose 5 games anymore and win a title. I think its a silly argument to be honest and its one that doesnt really need to happen.

You can put VAR into that context as well. Barcelona would have not won in 09 had VAR been about. They would have been beaten by Chelsea and we would have had another Chelsea/United final. Likewise Everton could have been multiple European champions had Liverpool not got everyone banned from Europe. Maybe even Arsenal as they won a couple of leagues in that period.

I think there is also a larger gap between the bottom teams and the top then there used to be. Middlesbrough were relegated in 96/97 but reached both domestic cup finals and had champions league winners in their squad.

toshj · 18 Mar 2022 at 16:11

Brentford's David Raya selected for the Spain squad instead of De Gea

Big time!

jonneymendoza · 19 Mar 2022 at 09:21

omnomnom said:
Different eras of football. Wenger never had to deal with a state owned club spending billions. I mean Liverpool didnt win a league title with 97 (Ninety seven) points (won a champions league though) whereas Arsene won one with 78, Liverpool are 9 points off that with 9 to go and are SECOND which is insane in itself. We could finish on 93 points and still not win the league this season for context thats 3 more points then the "invincibles". Fergie for eg regularly won the league with points in the 70s and 80s...he also never got to 97 points. That and Wenger is like 20 odd years older lmao.

Footballs changed massively since the Oilgarchs etc came in. You cant lose 5 games anymore and win a title. I think its a silly argument to be honest and its one that doesnt really need to happen.

That could also mean that the top teams are soo far ahead, there is no competition like in la liga and bundesleiga is….

omnomnom · 19 Mar 2022 at 09:39

jonneymendoza said:
That could also mean that the top teams are soo far ahead, there is no competition like in la liga and bundesleiga is….

Of course there’s competition. Any other league or back in the day Liverpool have already won the league. The fact they didn’t with 97 points suggests there’s competition and a good one at that.

jonneymendoza · 19 Mar 2022 at 09:53

omnomnom said:
Of course there’s competition. Any other league or back in the day Liverpool have already won the league. The fact they didn’t with 97 points suggests there’s competition and a good one at that.

How?

Look at city and Liverpool and then compare the rest.

City and Liverpool are miles ahead of everyone just like when real Madrid and Barcelona were in the past.

a1ex2001 · 20 Mar 2022 at 06:51

jonneymendoza said:
How?

Look at city and Liverpool and then compare the rest.

City and Liverpool are miles ahead of everyone just like when real Madrid and Barcelona were in the past.

The gap is certainly getting wider, the teams at the top most notably city seem to be able to field two sides that wood win the league Man City B would definitely be pushing for the champions league!

omnomnom · 20 Mar 2022 at 11:41

jonneymendoza said:
How?

Look at city and Liverpool and then compare the rest.

City and Liverpool are miles ahead of everyone just like when real Madrid and Barcelona were in the past.

R Madrid are 10 points ahead in La Liga. Munich? 6.

How many teams have won the title in the Bundesliga in the last 10 years?

Munich.

Thats it. Thats not competition.