Caporegime
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Van Gaal,
After playing 12 games... he had 19 points in the league, and a +6 goal difference. Not sure about position, because I can't get that from a quick glance at their results.
4th after 12 games. Statto is a great site for that kind of thing, it has list of results and the league position after that round of fixtures.
Difference being Moyes took over a championship winning side with very few serious injuries and played a basically unchanged side(a couple players for rotation) with the majority of the same 11 playing most of the first 10-15 games, the same starting line up that finished the previous season champions.
Also without a single significant player leaving IIRC.
Rodgers has one significant player who left, one injured and bought what 6 players meaning the team hasn't had many changes at all. Sure there are 5-6 new players but compared to last year's squad only 2 of them "had" to play considering only 2 people are really unavailable compared to the team that finished last year.
LVG had 3 very senior players leave, many more players injured and multiple new players in of which because a much larger number of players was injured or left, Utd had to play a much higher number of new players, some bought some youth team.
LVG has had a massively, massively changed team to deal with and while maybe his own fault(but might in the long term prove best) has had loads of injuries causing constant starting line up changes and yet has improved the results and performances(which while not good are still improving, just no where near as fast as the results improved).
If Moyes had as many changes/injuries/players leaving the side would undoubtedly have done MUCH worse than they did. Likewise if Rodgers had 2-3 more players leave and another 3-4 injuries then he'd be in an equally bad situation as LVG and have an excuse, however he doesn't.