Football in Manchester

Jeff Lynne said:
No, badly run BIG club don't go under.
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What?

what's happening at clubs like Newcastle? Southampton? look at what happened to Leeds?

These are clubs that have been ran badly and suffered as a result, only difference is they have further to fall and there is more chance of them stopping.
 
Southampton very nearly did.

"Big" clubs have longer to fall as well, they're often bought out and have many more fans willing to help them out.

Hyde, little club, badly ran, going under.

You reap what you sow.
 
I guess it just goes to show how you get a better, more helpful reaction from people when you ask nicely for their money, rather than lecturing them smugly.
 
JamesU2005 said:
The reason smaller clubs are going under is because not enough local people are attending. Instead of visiting a club that is 5 minutes down the road they would rather spend £50 a month and watch the Premier League whilst sitting on their sofa.
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Is that any surprise? Why would I pay to watch players who aren't even that much better than me? I could probably put in a year or two of hard work and be playing in that team.

Why are you guys irked at people wanting to watch quality football and talented induviduals? Do you hate people who watch good tennis, rugby and athletics too? Why should we settle for mediocrity because you think we should?
 
jakeke said:
Is that any surprise? Why would I pay to watch players who aren't even that much better than me? I could probably put in a year or two of hard work and be playing in that team.
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That is an absolutely common misconception.

Now admittedly I don't know you but I'll be prepared to bet that the only way you'd get in a team at a decent level of non-league football is if there was a plague that wiped out 90% of the population.

There are some very talented footballers outside the football league you know.
 
Hyde won't be last, these figures are from Chester City
Chester City Football Club (2004) Ltd
Profit and Loss Account

2009/10
Forecast
£
INCOME
FL Parachute £215,500.00
Gate Income £170,090.00
Season Tickets £46,212.00
Cup Ties (Net) £7,500.00
Friendlies (Net)
Commercial £107,895.00
LFE Academy Fees (Scholars) £38,610.00
Transfer Fees
Player Loans
Premier League 'Gift' £30,000.00
Conference League Income £15,000.00
(Assumes no TV deal)
Programmes £15,406.00
Car Park Income £3,562.00

TOTAL INCOME £649,775.00

EXPENDITURE
Pay and NI:
Playing Squad / Loans In £597,358.00
YT Scholars £54,080.00
Football Management and Support £119,076.00
Permanent Staff £117,317.00
Football Overheads £101,600.00
YT Scholars' Overheads £23,000.00
Football in the Community
Transfer Fees
Matchday Costs - HOME £60,419.00
Matchday Costs - AWAY £28,613.00
Cost of Sales:
Commercial £36,710.00
Programmes £19,550.00
Bad Debts Provision
Media and Website £1,800.00
General Overheads £135,769.00
Depreciation £14,500.00

TOTAL EXPENDITURE £1,309,792.00

Interest Receivable / (Payable)

PROFIT / (LOSS) BEFORE TAX £660,017.00


Other exclusions from above:
Football Creditors to be established
Paul Taylor Litigation - £3,082 offered for 1.9.08 - 6.10.08. Vauxhall looking for payment to xx.1.09
Transfer Fees: Potential income for Jon Walters: 20% of fee less £150k
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Awaits thread:

OMGZ Chester are in trouble, maybe Stoke, Man Utd, City and Liverpool should bail them out!!11!1!one!

The well run ******** !
 
Jeff Lynne said:
That is an absolutely common misconception.

Now admittedly I don't know you but I'll be prepared to bet that the only way you'd get in a team at a decent level of non-league football is if there was a plague that wiped out 90% of the population.

There are some very talented footballers outside the football league you know.
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I'm awesome and there could be a plague, in which case I am right!

Or it was an exaggeration ;)

Edit - You have to wonder, the club's entire income is £650k and they're spending £600k on players wages alone, how dumb can you possibly be :(
 
jakeke said:
Edit - You have to wonder, the club's entire income is £650k and they're spending £600k on players wages alone, how dumb can you possibly be :(
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Woooo there Betty, its not Chester's fault.

It's the big clubs that are running them into the ground!
 
G|mp said:
Awaits thread:

OMGZ Chester are in trouble, maybe Stoke, Man Utd, City and Liverpool should bail them out!!11!1!one!

The well run ******** !
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Even though you're being sarcastic, for anyone that might be interested (anyone?) you'll see very little sympathy for Chester if they find themselves in the same position.
 
jakeke said:
You have to wonder, the club's entire income is £650k and they're spending £600k on players wages alone, how dumb can you possibly be :(
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They aren't dumb there though, the club is owned by shysters who unlike Hyde wouldn't miss a minutes sleep if they went bust and were unable to pay off creditors.
 
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