Football, just a working class cult?

Rexton · 10 Mar 2011 at 22:57

nydryl said:
Spoken like someone who has never supported a team. Try coming up to Dundee on Saturday and telling that to the 5000 odd that will be watching the team try to beat the clubs unbeaten record.

What need do I have to support a team? Football teams don't represent me, the place I'm from, or who I am for that matter, I have no need to "support" a certain side.

nydryl · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:00

Rexton said:
What need do I have to support a team? Football teams don't represent me, the place I'm from, or who I am for that matter, I have no need to "support" a certain side.

You don't need to support a team - I couldn't care less if you do or not. However by not supporting a team it makes it impossible for you to understand what it feels like to do so. Attempting to belittle people that do support a team is ignorant.

Garee · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:03

It's not the sports fault. It's the idiotic supporters.

Rexton · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:05

nydryl said:
You don't need to support a team - I couldn't care less if you do or not. However by not supporting a team it makes it impossible for you to understand what it feels like to do so. Attempting to belittle people that do support a team is ignorant.

Assuming that I was attempting to "belitte" people when I was simply sharing my opinion of a certain sport is ignorant.

Morgoth · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:08

LeJosh said:
I'm perfectly calm honey.

Let's all hug it out!

nydryl · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:14

Rexton said:
Assuming that I was attempting to "belitte" people when I was simply sharing my opinion of a certain sport is ignorant.

The truth is each football team is a business without any real resemblance to the place they're supposedly representing.

You don't say that is your opinion, you say it's the truth. It isn't the truth and I offered the example of Dundee and the 5000+ fans that you could ask this weekend who would testify that that isn't the truth. I'm sure others could easily offer up examples of clubs where the team absolutely does resemble the place they represent and is certainly not just a business.

Rexton · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:22

be·lit·tle/biˈlitl/
Verb: Make (someone or something) seem unimportant.

How does the fact that I was stating my opinion of what is the truth mean I was attempting to belittle anyone? Surely by that logic it would mean that the 5,000+ fans you say would testify that it wasn't the truth would also be, in-turn, attempting belittle me?

Just because I have certain opinions on a sport as well as other people have theirs, doesn't mean I am in any way "belittling" them by sharing it. I couldn't care less if people enjoy the sport or not, I have to sit through hours of it each weekend with my girlfriends family anyway, I know what the culture is like.

SexyGreyFox · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:24

oops, stepped into a thread full of gay posters that don't like football

Westyfield2 · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:29

Football's a chav sport.

Rugger's where its at! :cool:

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shifty_uk · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:31

dmpoole said:
oops, stepped into a thread full of gay posters that don't like football

Yeah, who's the nancy boy now?
http://www.redcarded.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/ronaldo-shorts.jpg

Didn't you call all bodybuilders gay, aswell? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Cosimo · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:33

dmpoole said:
oops, stepped into a thread full of gay posters that don't like football

They're all playing with the wrong ball:

shifty_uk said:
Calm down dear, was only mocking the stereotype.

LeJosh said:
I'm perfectly calm honey.

Morgoth said:
Let's all hug it out!

stoke1863 · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:36

drunkenmaster said:
Totally agree, just like every person I knew who went to a private school now can't stop talking about the opera, and every dude I know who went to a boarding school is a closet homo(and likes Rugby), etc, etc, etc.

A group of people you knew years ago like football, and they still do, not really much of a story is it.

classic, burnt down op in flames

sanaxe1 · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:40

Its not a cult. Its a group of people liking something. (Football) who then make smaller groups (Teams). So they stick together and give banter and sometimes more to other groups.

Similar to people who like the original Starwars and then people who like the new Starwars as well. They then group together and tell the other group they are wrong and have banter , disagreements and if the debate gets heated sometimes violence. You can replace this example with virtually anything. Its just that there are so many fans of football that there are more cases.

SexyGreyFox · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:40

shifty_uk said:
Didn't you call all bodybuilders gay, aswell? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Probably - depends how many Newcastle Browns I had.

Fenris · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:50

sanaxe1 said:
Similar to people who like the original Starwars and then people who like the new Starwars as well. They then group together and tell the other group they are wrong and have banter , disagreements and if the debate gets heated sometimes violence.

I would absolutely love to hear of a case of Star Wars fans getting violent about preference for one trilogy over the other that has ever resulted in someone going to hospital or dying.

shifty_uk · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:51

sanaxe1 said:
Similar to people who like the original Starwars and then people who like the new Starwars as well. They then group together and tell the other group they are wrong and have banter , disagreements and if the debate gets heated sometimes violence. You can replace this example with virtually anything. Its just that there are so many fans of football that there are more cases.

Are you seriously comparing Star Wars fans to football fans?

stoke1863 said:
classic, burnt down op in flames

Hardly

PardonTheWait · 10 Mar 2011 at 23:53

I don't understand the attraction of football at all and just leave people to it.

The biggest thing that I cannot understand is how it can not only be such an obsession, but it never seems to go away. They never get bored of it. Ever!

There must be something to it or it wouldn't be so enormously popular, worldwide, but it's just completely beyond me how they don't get bored of watching it, talking about it, arguing about it, reading about it, every single day, for their entire lives... So strange.

bitslice · 11 Mar 2011 at 00:08

PardonTheWait said:
There must be something to it or it wouldn't be so enormously popular, worldwide, but it's just completely beyond me how they don't get bored of watching it, talking about it, arguing about it, reading about it, every single day, for their entire lives... So strange.

Two options.

it's either repressed homoerotic male bonding
or
it's too much effort to develop an interest in something less passive

Maybe it's just the people I've met, but I've never known a football fan have an interest in anything but football. Art, history, food, film, politics, music, religion, literature - not a flicker of interest or knowledge.
But ask them about who was goalie in the 1967 away game against FucWits United, and they are able to give you a complete analysis of the entire game.
And I thought Rain Man was special :rolleyes:

Psycho Sonny · 11 Mar 2011 at 00:11

PardonTheWait said:
I don't understand the attraction of football at all and just leave people to it.

The biggest thing that I cannot understand is how it can not only be such an obsession, but it never seems to go away. They never get bored of it. Ever!

There must be something to it or it wouldn't be so enormously popular, worldwide, but it's just completely beyond me how they don't get bored of watching it, talking about it, arguing about it, reading about it, every single day, for their entire lives... So strange.

have you ever played it?

people dont get paid up to £500K a week (i think ronaldo will be on that in the 5th year of his contract at real madrid) for nothing. it takes a sheer load of skill to do what he does, the level he is playing at most people can only dream of.

its the same as formula one race drivers, or any other sport with huge demand, i think in india, cricket is on the same level as football. and in america it is american football, baseball and basketball which are in huge demand.

Psycho Sonny · 11 Mar 2011 at 00:17

bitslice said:
Two options.

it's either repressed homoerotic male bonding
or
it's too much effort to develop an interest in something less passive

Maybe it's just the people I've met, but I've never known a football fan have an interest in anything but football. Art, history, food, film, politics, music, religion, literature - not a flicker of interest or knowledge.
But ask them about who was goalie in the 1967 away game against FucWits United, and they are able to give you a complete analysis of the entire game.
And I thought Rain Man was special

lol, severe exaggeration.

i have an interest in football, ufc, boxing, bodybuilding, food, film, music and religion. i have watched a shedload of movies literally, and have about 60GB of music on my ipod.

i also have an honours degree.