Football *Spoilers* 26/27/28 April

NokkonWud said:
I wasn't aware anyone thought Man Utd should have had a penalty for the tackle on Carrick. The penalty was the one where Ballack wasn't looking at the ball or attempting to play it (unlike Ronaldo), and that was a penalty.

That's what I meant in my message Squirrel if that's what you were wondering.
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Yeah sorry, I thought everyone was talking about the Carrick one.

Shows how much I thought the Ballack one wasn't a penalty.

50/50 in my eyes. If a penalty was given for that we would see about 2 penalties every game.
 
So gutted I cant go to the JJB on the 11th and see Wigan beat Man United.

Going to VXR track day the day after so dont want to go because I know I will be drinking like a fish.
 
BaZ87 said:
Im pretty sure i read an article by Graham Poll where he said that he felt that some refs will subconsciously not give decisions to some players based on past antics even if they were being fouled. He even mentioned the way Ronaldo looks to the heavens when decisions don't go his way and that some refs may not take too well to that sort of reaction.
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Graham Poll is an arse.
 
Ronaldo gets fouled a ridiculous amount in comparison to the number of decisions he's actually given, it'd be nice if referees were prepared to grow a pair and blow the whistle. I think often they're afraid of giving one player too many free kicks regardless of whether they're deserved or not, which obviously is totally wrong. It's easy to see why he gets frustrated.
 
well thought id comment, thought it was antoher poor performance from us, when we were playing football that scared people, the fast attacking football that made the first half of the season a canter we could and would torture most teams imho.

but now we are at the business end of the season fergie has changed tactics to be more defensive minded and imho its not working.

we began the season playing both tevez and rooney up front who looked awesome together little flicks , dinks to run onto with ronaldo and giggs / nani bombing forward as well. I remember games were we played jhust anderson and scholes netiehr reallly a DMC in the centre and we literally tortured teams.

Now were back to playing 4-5-1 and personally i dont think rooney or Tevez or Ronaldo can play the 1 up top. we were awesome on the counter attack utilising all the pace we had in the side now we sit back and try to soak up pressure.

It happens nearly every year and it is always at the expense of our attacking game which TBh is what we are best at.

Yesterday was prime example of this again, chelsea played well and deserved there win (although ballack on ronaldo was a definite penalty !) but overall if we lose the league no offence but in my eyes it will be us that have lost it and not chelsea winning it.

We need to go back to 442 and that has to start on tuesday night.
 
I think Plessis looks like a good prospect for Liverpool, seems a very steady player.

Chelsea deserved the win, penalty claims aside they were the better team and got what they deserved. Going to be an exciting end :D!
 
Memphisto is absolutely spot on with everything, it's obvious the tactics have gone more defensive, but what's more criminal is that despite playing very attacking 4-4-2 we still had the best defence, so why go and confuse and limit all the top players and give the opposition more of the ball?

Stupid.
 
ScarySquirrel said:
Yeah sorry, I thought everyone was talking about the Carrick one.

Shows how much I thought the Ballack one wasn't a penalty.

50/50 in my eyes. If a penalty was given for that we would see about 2 penalties every game.
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The difference is Ronaldo was looking at the ball and trying to get to it as he's an aerial threat. Ballack wasn't looking at the ball, he was looking only at Ronaldo and had hands all over him. The rules of the game state you must always be making an attempt to play/win the ball, Ballack wasn't, therefore by the rules of the game it's a foul.

Usually you see similar stuff, but the defender is looking at the ball, in this instance it wasn't the case. He was all over Ronaldo (and Ronaldo wasn't all over Ballack), so it wasn't 50/50 and by the rules of the game it's a foul. A foul in the box is a penalty.
 
Maybe this is the kick up the backside Utd need. Even before the Arsenal game, the performances haven't been exceptional. We have been too defensive looking not to loose rather than impose our game on the opposition.

Were struggling with having nothing on the bench for teams to worry about up front. If they can contain us, they know we don't have anything, tactic wise we can radically change
 
lol'a'brawl! I have just seen the footage for the after game brawl on the pitch at chelsea on sky news. They were playinging it back sped up. All they need was the benny hill tune and it would have been spot on!
 
The Beeb said:
DERBY COUNTY - Club stats

1. Relegated on 29 March, the quickest demotion in the Premier League - overtaking Leicester's unwanted record by some eight days. It's Paul Jewell's first relegation as a manager. Since his arrival on 28 November, Jewell has overseen no wins, five draws and 16 losses.

2. Three matches remain to gain the four points required to avoid setting a new record as the worst side in the history of the Premier League; a dubious honour currently held by Sunderland, with 15 points in 2005-06.

3. Need to score four more goals to avoid becoming the outright lowest scorers in the Premier League (Sunderland totalled just 21 in 2002-03).

4. Averaging 0.49 goals per game. The lowest in English league football history was 0.53 by Loughborough College at second league level in 1899-1900, when they mustered 18 goals in 34 games.

5. Just three opportunities remain to avoid becoming the second club to go through an entire season of English League football with just one victory, and first since Loughborough College in 1899-1900.

6. Conceded six goals three times this season, five goals twice and four once. Been outscored by 59 goals and in danger of setting a record low goal difference in the Premier League, eclipsing Ipswich Town's -57 in 1994-95.

7. On the record longest winless sequence in this league of 29 games; drawn seven and lost 22 (seven points out of 87) since their solitary victory; 1-0 over Newcastle at Pride Park on 17 September.

8. One victory, 26 losses, 94 points dropped, 17 goals scored at one every 185 minutes (three hours five minutes) on average, and 76 conceded at one every 41 minutes on average; just three clean sheets, failed to score in 21, netted first in eight and allowed the opposition to open the scoring in 25; bottom in all nine categories.

9. Striving for a first home win in 15 (four points out of 42). Gained only eight points at Pride Park all season, and beaten 11 times at home, two more than the next heaviest home losers, Fulham.
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Wow. I knew they were bad, but just wow.
 
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