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Styles said:
Who on these forums takes N.O. supps and who rates them?
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I bought myself some myprotein N.O. but i found that the pump is overkill. After doing 1 set of bicep curl my muscles just ballooned stopping you from getting a decent training session. But if you want some vascularity to look like a beast then buy them :)
 
I firmly believe and always will believe, training hard and training smart will always be the way to gain.

Suppliments are fine, but the basics will always lay around your whey and your creatine. You can keep adding and adding to it but when alls said and done it comes back to this.
 
Definitely, I have a friend who recently started training and is forever asking for my advice, I gave him a superb split, a diet and even told him to come and eat all his meals with me. I ask him a week later how he's getting on and he tells me he's not making any gains, he tells me he decided to drop the split and do bench press and bicep curls 4 days a week because some of the other excersizes I prescribed were "too much work" :confused::eek:

I also found out instead of eating breakfast and lunch he was just having a 2 scoops of muscle milk and also decided to start a cycle of creatine......despite the fact he'd been training maybe 8 days!!

People need to learn that nothing worth having is achieved without hard work.
 
It's always going to be a problem in this game. There is a huge amount of misunderstanding that surrounds bodybuilding and it's always going to be that way. People are always going to go to the gym and see 95% of people doing things in the fashion of pec and bi at my gym, which is spend 90 minutes training only biceps with 47 sets of 80 reps on biceps and then maybe decide to train chest with some awfully performed DB Benching, most likey in the 1004 rep range.

If most people are doing this the people that are going to the gym are more often than not going to follow it, it's only a select few that will read what they need, speak to people who know the game, and train smart and not fall into the spiral of marketing BS.

I can give a prime example. I am training one day, and there's a guy in there who I see in there all the time. Bare in mind I can best the heaviest DB the gym offers, stack all the olympic plates they have and squat it, and comfortably lift more than anyone else in there (That's not me boasting, it's a small gym and that's just the way it is). On this day I'm training chest, and following a good routine and training hard. The guy then goes over to pec and Bi and asks for advice on how to train his chest? I mean cmon, is it because what I'm doing looks like hard work, or that they just want an easy way out.

The answer is, I don't know. The same goes with diet. Why would people want to eat 6-8 times a day when they can just eat crap all day and take a bit of creatine and instantly Cutlerise themselves?

Reading, seeking advice and more importantly LISTENING to advice are key. The people who have the time and dedication to keep it up are the people who will stay way ahead of the chasing pack.
 
23/02/2008
Workout B - Heavy

Squat
15x44KG

Leg Extension
20x35KG, 20x35KG, 20x35KG, 20x35KG

Leg Curl
15x30KG, 15x30KG, 15x30KG

Wide grip pull ups
5x10KG, 5x10KG, 5x10KG, 5x10KG - PB

Dips
55x20KG, 5x25KG, 5x25KG, 5x30KG, 20xBodyweight - PB

Military Press
5x24KG, 5x29KG< 5x29KG, 5x34KG, 5x37.5KG- PB

Back felt funny as soon as I started squatting. Went for some higher rep leg work with mininal rest (20 seconds max), the lactic acid building was intense. Was getting cramp in my hamstrings after the leg curls.

Dropped one arm rows because of the back and just cracked out some wide grip pull ups.

After doing 30KG Dips, I took the belt off to do a final set with tricep focus at bodyweight and I nearly pushed myself up off the dipping bars ha-ha. I felt so light, it was really weird :D
 
I've done that before Wardie, pretty crazy. I need to get myself a dipping belt. Trying to hold a 40kg dumbbell between your feet is a workout in itself.

P.S I think you made a typo on the Dips... 55 rep? :P
 
Wardie said:
23/02/2008
Workout B - Heavy

Squat
15x44KG

Leg Extension
20x35KG, 20x35KG, 20x35KG, 20x35KG

Leg Curl
15x30KG, 15x30KG, 15x30KG

Wide grip pull ups
5x10KG, 5x10KG, 5x10KG, 5x10KG - PB

Dips
55x20KG, 5x25KG, 5x25KG, 5x30KG, 20xBodyweight - PB

Military Press
5x24KG, 5x29KG< 5x29KG, 5x34KG, 5x37.5KG- PB
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Military Press is a brilliant exercise imo. With a m8 stupidly tried to go up as much weight as possible to see how much reps can be pushed out. Think we got it up to 70KG-ish for rep, mad though.
 
bbspeed said:
aye best just stick to the 170kg lat pull downs
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Did about 156KG (around 150 anyway) with the v-bar on the lat pulldown. On the lat pulldown straight bar I did palm facing grip close and pull-down on 133KG I think it was but I could have done more on that.
 
SK07 said:
Did about 156KG (around 150 anyway) with the v-bar on the lat pulldown. On the lat pulldown straight bar I did palm facing grip close and pull-down on 133KG I think it was but I could have done more on that.
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What weight are you at / years of training?

Pics, I'm impressed with anyone who can pull 150kg+ for reps on pulldowns.
 
ethos said:
Still impressive, I know guys 19 stone+ (one holds the uk bench record) who can't do this much.

Keep the good work up, a video would be good! :D
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I really don't understand this, theres no way it's 70kg because when i come to bring it up to the stack i can hang from it in mid-air. I will video it and im gonna video the weight stack as well.
 
To give you something else to consider, in an old gym of mine, on a cable cross over, 1 side I could vbar tricep press over 50kg, on the other side i could manage 25kg. go figure! crap equipment :]
 
Who thinks we should have an OcUK powerlifting competition? Or at least a thread containing a table with our respective totals. Like the one on Muscle Talk. Would just be a bit of fun.
 
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