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Very true comment regarding AE in the comments!
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Ford Mustang to be released in EU
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Very true comment regarding AE in the comments!
Very true comment regarding AE in the comments!
I thought the big car argument was put to rest. Yes it is big but perfectly usable on a UK road as it is no bigger than a Jaguar XKR and similar/smaller than many BMW's that seem to have no issue.
At least the facts are the facts, V8 well optioned coupe with manual for less than 35k with incredible looks and heritage at under 35k make it a true brand new car bargain.
Good point!
In other good news Directline quoted me £317, so I told them about all the modifications, suspension, exhaust, interior, decals on and on and on. They noted everything, came back to me with £415. Am over the moon with that quote!
They did however state they will not insure the car if I super charge it, so I rang a few more insurers, with supercharger declared with an estimated 700BHP £550-£650 which also insures the vehicle market price plus the cost to replace the modifications.
So will take the Directline offer as my plan is to supercharge after a years ownership.
Got a feeling in a year though insurance will go up, one has already written off, by a dealership sales person, LOL.
yea go Directline and change insurers when you fit the Blower, is your Blower loud enough???? because you want one that makes a terrific Whining noise......nothing sounds as good
:it'll cost you £500 road tax ?????? because the Dodge does !
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The salesperson had a customer out on a test drive in a demo. Salesman was driving and, as he left the roundabout, applied the power too soon and spun the car, hitting a fence and ripping the back end and exhaust system etc off.... oops
I have driven one a couple of times so far and, if you you're not careful, it will slide out. Just people not knowing how to drive a 420BHP RWD car and thinking they can drive it like a normal FWD car and applying power mid bend without realising what will happen...
definitely ! but the Caterham will do that too, you cant chuck it around like the old Mini Cooper
definitely ! but the Caterham will do that too, you cant chuck it around like the old Mini Cooper
Got an M3 to be a total loony in.
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One thing i'm not so sure on, do you really need to supercharge it if you're only intending road usage?
Unsure who you're going to be drag-racing on the streets!
Would seem more sensible to keep the power nearish to stock (i.e. not something mad like 700bhp), than struggle with traction etc that putting so much power down will create.
Unsure who you're going to be drag-racing on the streets!
Would seem more sensible to keep the power nearish to stock (i.e. not something mad like 700bhp), than struggle with traction etc that putting so much power down will create.
Yes, in the words of Clarkson you can never have enough power.
Seriously one of the huge enjoyments of the old one was just squeezing the loud pedal on a roll and accelerating full throttle through 2nd and 3rd, completely insane, or just floor it in 5th and it still took off.
Traction was never an issue in the old one, albeit it had less power (575BHP), but also it had less mechanical traction, live axle, no LSD, only 275 rear section tyres and the suspension struggled with bumps being a live axle. But saying that in the dry it would deploy all its power in 2nd gear did not even need to roll into the throttle progressively could just stomp on it that was of course with full modified suspension.
On my old Mustang I did things opposite way round, POWER and then realised it was a death trap, smoking its tyres even in 3rd/4th if not careful with power application. But changing the suspension and fitting uprated parts solved it.
The new one is better out the box, but I have all the parts to change the suspension already at home including all the uprated parts for coping with upto 900BHP, so getting power to the ground will be OK in the dry, maybe not in the wet but in the wet no RWD car can put power down that good, the M3 is a hooligan in such conditions, only 911's go against the trend.
Do 30-100mph run in 420BHP is good, doing the same with 600-700BHP will be incredible.
The M3 will be finished of for track work, set myself a deadline of Summer next year to get done:
3.91 M-differential (practically done just needs fitting)
Rear welded cage
Weight to 1275-1325kg zone.
Michelin cup 2 tyres on new set of wheels and have a road/wet set with Uniroyal Rainsport 3 on I reckon.
That is it, the M3 is complete.
On the wish list is:
Full wrap
CF genuine roof
The Mustang will visit track to explore its limits in safety but were talking maybe once a year thing.
Just pointing out that AE also refer to it as being big.
this is worst than my Honda Jazz crap......look, you buy a yank V8 because it's the best engine/ best sounding engine in the world, who gives a damn if the car is slightly too big
there was a Mini called ``Stripteaser``......... it had a Jag 4.6 in it
, but it was useless down a dragstrip.....far too light/ far too small, it used to bounce up and down over the surface, he just couldn't get the Slicks to stay planted.you can not put a muscle motor in a small car, not easily.....not with a short narrow wheelbase, it'll be too unstable and too twitchy, you'll be slow as hell
i saw this all the time
in an Escort you fit a Turbo Cosworth.............but not a 426 Hemi ........ha ha
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First RWD car I had was 70bhp and it lost traction on a corner below 30mph must have been because I threw it round I guess, cant remember wasnt a big deal but I was so surprised it did that. Just cant be ham fisted like a FWD will tolerate, I really would drive one of these beasts so careful at first till the difference is clearly felt
no, you'll get used to 700hp, you'll know when to floor it
the more you think about it, the more you realise that none of these new breed of Muscle cars are perfect for the Drag Strip, you'd be better off with a 32 Ford Hot Rod kit car from the U.S.A..........and fit a Blown Chevy 350..................lower its suspension and stiffen it, So it'll handle like a Caterham..........but have much better quality interior and finally just as fast, maybe more !
you'll only need 550hp and that's nothing for a small block Chevy
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It depends what you want from the car. Whilst I understand Gibbo's want for more power I will be leaving mine stock as 420 is more than enough for me and it will be my daily driver rather than a fun toy.
I have also never driven rwd before or had a car above the 200hp mark so I will be taking it steady to learn how to handle the car and what it can and cannot do. I might be tempted with some skid pan training however as would be good to get used to it!
I have also never driven rwd before or had a car above the 200hp mark so I will be taking it steady to learn how to handle the car and what it can and cannot do. I might be tempted with some skid pan training however as would be good to get used to it!
This will be my daily car, I could tune my car to 900BHP, about the limit you can go whilst maintaining stock like driving ability. But your only ever using as much as your right foot permits, throttle is not on/off, remember this.
When you get your car drive it as it there is an egg below all the pedal and make steering inputs very smooth, using such smooth technique is not only safer but on a whole also faster especially in a RWD car.
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This will be my daily car, I could tune my car to 900BHP, about the limit you can go whilst maintaining stock like driving ability. But your only ever using as much as your right foot permits, throttle is not on/off, remember this.
When you get your car drive it as it there is an egg below all the pedal and make steering inputs very smooth, using such smooth technique is not only safer but on a whole also faster especially in a RWD car.
This is my big reservation about insanely high power cars, especially RWD. On a public road they either become quickly boring, where you spend 90% of the time barely touching the accelerator, or alternatively nervous as you feel it wanting to break traction as the power overwhelms the tyres.
Give me moderate power with insane levels of mechanical grip anytime. (I appreciate that sounds a little dull though!)
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Never really had an issue with my old Mustang, the new one is in a different league for traction and mechanical grip.
However what your talking about is what cars like an EVO/GTR offer, I've owned both and they do as you say, but yes they are dull. In someways half the excitement is feeling the car wants to kill you.
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Still mulling over trading the Aston Martin for the GT350, but drove a regular GT today, I think you guys will be quite happy in the Uk, the new interior is light years beyond the old one, and the car feels very nice indeed. Could use more power in my eyes but it's quick, gearbox was lovely and was a really effortless drive.