Ford Mustang to be released in EU

I've managed to find an order slot for a GT350 at MSRP which was a lot harder than I thought it would be. Most dealers are charging $5-50k over sticker currently!

Do I trade the Aston Martin for the GT350 or keep the AM? Going to be a tough decision, don't have the option at this time to keep both.
 
[ui]ICEMAN;28989447 said:
I've managed to find an order slot for a GT350 at MSRP which was a lot harder than I thought it would be. Most dealers are charging $5-50k over sticker currently!

Do I trade the Aston Martin for the GT350 or keep the AM? Going to be a tough decision, don't have the option at this time to keep both.
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I am sure as your across the pond an AM is far more exclusive than a Mustang, even a GT350.

Do you want race/handling/power/noise (Mustang) or class, rarity, better interior and still damn good noise and handling (AM).

Tough one mate, surely the AM is worth a lot more money though?
 
Gibbo said:
I am sure as your across the pond an AM is far more exclusive than a Mustang, even a GT350.

Do you want race/handling/power/noise (Mustang) or class, rarity, better interior and still damn good noise and handling (AM).

Tough one mate, surely the AM is worth a lot more money though?
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Yeah the AM is extremely rare, and a car I absolutely adore. I have an opportunity to get out of it for almost exactly what I paid for it, and jump into a GT350 at very close to MSRP so I'm quite tempted.

Yes, the AM is worth double what the GT350 is so it would be a fairly sizable chunk of change back in my pocket if I were to do it.

Going to have to ponder this one over the coming days.
 
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Yeah the AM is extremely rare, and a car I absolutely adore. I have an opportunity to get out of it for almost exactly what I paid for it, and jump into a GT350 at very close to MSRP so I'm quite tempted.

Yes, the AM is worth double what the GT350 is so it would be a fairly sizable chunk of change back in my pocket if I were to do it.

Going to have to ponder this one over the coming days.
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Well if its a case of the following:

1. You won't get such a good offer for the AM again.
2. You won't be able to get into a 350 at MSRP so easily again.
3. Move the 350 on in six months for what you paid or even a profit.

Then I would be doing it as you can essentially either lose zero money have essentially free motoring or even turn a profit.

The AM is just ooooozing style and class even here in the UK, in the USA you can probably times that by several times, you probably feel like the real 007. :D

The Mustang is a racer, if you want that in your face insane noise, 8000+ rpm redline, supercar levels of handling then buy the Mustang and have fun for six months, maybe do a couple of track days and then move it on. :)
 
Mal X said:
my Hyundai Coupe 2.0 was a miles better car...
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Mal X said:
http://www.autoblog.com/photos/2015-dodge-challenger-392-hemi-scat-pack-shaker/

there's the link, the 1971 Challenger Shaker was good looking too; but far too big for nowadays, all Dodge have done is to shrink it down in size and tidy it up.

the Mustang is a small car by American standards, but of all the muscle cars that have come and gone over the years, the only one to have survived that looks similar to 30 years ago is the Mustang :eek:

probably because the Mustang is such a legend for all of us, whereas only a few over here have ever heard of the Roadrunner, Dodge Dart or Barracuda........finally, the Mustang was a far better all round road car, where as the others only really appealed to Drag racers.
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The hellcat version is just insane. 700BHP. Shame about the £70k price tag :(
 
Begbie said:
The hellcat version is just insane. 700BHP. Shame about the £70k price tag :(
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Yeah but the weight kills its performance, it does the quarter mile in 11.2-11.5s region with 125mph terminals, for 707BHP that is actually pretty poor.
 
Gibbo said:
Yeah but the weight kills its performance, it does the quarter mile in 11.2-11.5s region with 125mph terminals, for 707BHP that is actually pretty poor.
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but with drag radials it does the 1/4 in 10.8

now lets compare this to the Shelby mustang and the R as well :-
12.1 at 119......12.4 at 117.

so the Challenger Hellcat in factory stock mode is much faster than the Shelby Mustang R.

you said it's pretty poor for 707hp ? no it's brilliant when you consider its weight..... because in a straight line it can be argued, that the Shelby Mustang R is the one that performs badly !!!!
 
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Gibbo said:
Well with a Roush supercharger they are doing it in 10.9s at 135mph terminals with 670BHP region.

A lot faster with less power. :)
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no, the Hellcat is still faster but only just......so for you to play catch up, you're having to add a blower to your car, whereas the Dodge already has this.:D

but in my opinion, i would not buy the Hellcat, i'd go for the Hemi Shaker, because that has a superior 6.4 Engine and will give you far more power with a Blower.....the Hemi Shaker with a blower will give you about 850hp...maybe 910hp :cool:

more importantly, it would still be cheaper than the Hellcat; by about 10 000 quid !
 
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JRS said:
Gibbo - the Challenger Hellcat will do the 1/4 mile in 10.85 on street-legal drag radials (no other mods). The 11.2 figure is on the standard factory road tyre.

And there's more than one Hellcat running 9s now :D
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Dude but the Mustang time I quoted is on the stock Pirelli road tyres.

If you want to compare drag radials, then the VMP supercharger kit ($6995) is doing it in 10.2s at 138mph on drag radials.

Sorry the Mustang is the faster car and with less horsepower to boot.

Compare like for like. :)


The Dodge for the horsepower is not that quick, 11.2s for 700+ horsepower with 125mph terminal is not so great because the weight kills it.
 
Mal X said:
you can actually buy a ``drag challenger``, you can order it right now from Mopar;)
http://www.mopar.com/dodge/challenger/mopar-drag-pak/

but you'd need to add stuff back into it to make it street legal, not too hard to do, this does the 1/4 in about 8 ;).
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Ford offer exactly the same, Cobra jet:
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/11/03/2016-ford-mustang-cobra-jet-sema-2015/

Also 8s :)

But completely pointless and utter crap for the road, I want a road car and simple fact is a 2015 Mustang with a Roush, VMP or Whipple supercharger is very hard to beat performance wise. The new upcoming Shelby GT500 uses the Whipple, rumours are minimum of 750BHP from factory. For me perfect, no driveability issues, car can still corner and do the trip to the shops or cruise in comfort or go and attack a b-road. I am not going drag racing so I don't want a drag car so why you keep posting about drag cars I am unsure.....
 
Mal X said:
no, the Hellcat is still faster but only just......so for you to play catch up, you're having to add a blower to your car, whereas the Dodge already has this.:D

but in my opinion, i would not buy the Hellcat, i'd go for the Hemi Shaker, because that has a superior 6.4 Engine and will give you far more power with a Blower.....the Hemi Shaker with a blower will give you about 850hp...maybe 910hp :cool:

more importantly, it would still be cheaper than the Hellcat; by about 10 000 quid !
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Can you not read?

11.2s at 125mph is slower than 10.9s at 135mph (Roush Stage 1 - 670BHP).

It is also slower than:
10.8s at 125mph than 10.2s at 138mph (VMP Stage 1) (drag radials on both cars).


The Mustang is quicker and of course you have to add a blower, the GT500 has not being released yet.

Your comparing against Shelby GT350's which are road course cars all about handling, they are NA, add a super charger to one of those and the Hellcat has no hope in hell. There is no Challenger that handles well, they are too heavy, the regular Mustang GT PP laps faster than a Hellcat. :D

The GT500 is coming, it has a Whipple and it will be doing 10s quarters on the stock tyres, not drag radials. :)


The guys on pushing 8s quarters with regular GT Mustangs with VMP blowers in stage 3 tune ($8000), larger injectors, twin fan cooling, larger throttle body, but still stock engine internals and they are pushing 950BHP and passing in 8s.
 
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Gibbo said:
Dude but the Mustang time I quoted is on the stock Pirelli road tyres.

If you want to compare drag radials, then the VMP supercharger kit ($6995) is doing it in 10.2s at 138mph on drag radials.

The Dodge for the horsepower is not that quick, 11.2s for 700+ horsepower with 125mph terminal is not so great because the weight kills it.
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no, you're tuning up a Mustang.....you're moving the goalposts m8, because if you do this, then it's only fair that we tune up a Hemi Shaker as well, it'll blow your Mustang away ;):D
 
Mal X said:
no, you're tuning up a Mustang.....you're moving the goalposts m8, because if you do this, then it's only fair that we tune up a Hemi Shaker as well, it'll blow your Mustang away ;):D
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Don't think you get it buddy.

A Hellcat is a tuned up Challenger, supercharger added.

Ford have not officially released the GT500/550 yet. So you can only compare to Roush or a superchargered Mustang GT. Fairest comparison would be the Roush Stage 3 $56,000 compared to Hellcat $64,000. The Roush is quicker in a straight line and handling wise in a different league and it cost less. :)

Adding a blower to a Mustang GT makes it quicker than a Hellcat, pretty damn cool really when you consider cost of super charger is $6000 and that is all it takes to have Hellcat beating performance. :)

People are running close to 1000BHP on the stock Mustang engine, its forged from the factory, I say they are mental but hey let them do it, 700 will be more than enough for me and a lot safer.
 
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Gibbo said:
Can you not read?

11.2s at 125mph is slower than 10.9s at 135mph (Roush Stage 1 - 670BHP).

It is also slower than:
10.8s at 125mph than 10.2s at 138mph (VMP Stage 1) (drag radials on both cars).


The Mustang is quicker and of course you have to add a blower, the GT500 has not being released yet.

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no it's you that's not understanding a thing......you're flipping cheating:(

you're tuning up a standard Mustang......but the Hellcat is Standard already, it's much faster than the standard Mustang Shelby R, do you understand this.

the rest of your post is null and void, because these are tuned up cars.....anyone can tune up a car

Road handling??? yes the Mustang wins, but we're not talking about that are we, we're talking 1/4 mile only.............Factory trim only :cool:

Factory vs Factory, the Dodge is a faster car.............looks better too!
 
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