Foreigners working here...

[FnG]magnolia;24086590 said:
If there's one thing GD is not good at it is the second sentence.
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Because having a decent debate on foreign workers is a bad thing?

The conversation was going quite well in till both of you added your troll posts.
 
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Neodite said:
Because having a decent debate on foreign workers is a bad thing?

The conversation was going quite well in till both of you added your troll posts.
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Except it wasn't? People are complaining that Polish workers are coming here and taking the jobs that could otherwise have gone to those claiming benefits. There is absolutely NOTHING stopping those British workers from having those very same jobs, except that they simply do not wish to do them. There is still a minimum wage.
 
This, they're taking all the jobs, rubbish, means that you are simply not skilled enough, not trying hard enough, and not willing to work for the amount that the job is offering. These foreign people are, more often than not, very hard working, good at their jobs, and a credit to England and the countries they come from.
 
I have to say, it is quite interesting looking at the posters on high horses and do not seem to see the problem some of us "common" folk have. Then you look at the location they live and all becomes apparent.
 
Funny thread is funny.

Only if she is fit :p

[Seriously though-EU citizen is allowed under Schengen agreement to do so and under some other stuff in the TFEU. She should know that anyhow, and if she didn't, she does now :)]
 
Neodite said:
I have to say, it is quite interesting looking at the posters on high horses and do not seem to see the problem some of us "common" folk have. Then you look at the location they live and all becomes apparent.
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I'm not sure whether you're referring to me in that particular sentence, but I started at the bottom of the career ladder stacking shelves for a salary of £11500. I wanted to earn more than that, so I got myself educated and was driven enough to work my way up. I see no reason why others can't do that, nor why they can't do the minimum-wage jobs that the other EU workers can do.

It is just placing blame on someone else for the individuals lack of action to educate themselves or do menial work.
 
ci_newman said:
Evidently not if they are coming here and are able to find work..
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Not really,
Even if there are no jobs going in a sector you can still sack one worker, then hire a cheaper one.

The sly way is to relocate the company so that all the existing staff can't move, then hire cheaper staff.


I'm assuming that everyone who is happy with the whole idea has a cushy job with minimal chance of being replaced by someone willing to undercut you?
Thought so.
 
C'mon, I want my roll eyes;

You were born and grew up in a first world country with first world education and opportunities and all you could amount to was unskilled factory work?

Pwnd!!
 
ci_newman said:
I'm not sure whether you're referring to me in that particular sentence, but I started at the bottom of the career ladder stacking shelves for a salary of £11500. I wanted to earn more than that, so I got myself educated and was driven enough to work my way up. I see no reason why others can't do that, nor why they can't do the minimum-wage jobs that the other EU workers can do.

It is just placing blame on someone else for the individuals lack of action to educate themselves or do menial work.
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But we are not talking about minimum-wage jobs. We are talking semi-skilled jobs that do require skills.

Using a lorry driver as an example here, wages are 35k-50k here, so hardly minimum wage is it.

What if all the brits did get educated and all went for the same type of job you do, and you get made redundant, and you could not get a new job? Then maybe you would understand the problem, just because the problem is only at the lower end does not mean that no problem is around.
 
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