Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.


Clearly you're a bit...uneducated.

All chemicals have a quality that is termed volatility.
It reflects how easily it becomes airborne. Thick oily substances are typically not that volatile. Hence although you can stick your hooter up to it and give it a whiff you won't be inhaling large quantities.
That is why, when you want to disperse them you use an atomiser. Like the sort of thing you find on a woman's perfume bottle.

Think of paint. Open a tin and you can smell it. Do you use a brush to paint a car? No. You use a spray gun to atomise it. When you do that you wear a full face mask. You don't do that when you paint your walls.

Comprende?
 
Dis86 said:
Clearly you're a bit...uneducated.

All chemicals have a quality that is termed volatility.
It reflects how easily it becomes airborne. Thick oily substances are typically not that volatile. Hence although you can stick your hooter up to it and give it a whiff you won't be inhaling large quantities.
That is why, when you want to disperse them you use an atomiser. Like the sort of thing you find on a woman's perfume bottle.

Think of paint. Open a tin and you can smell it. Do you use a brush to paint a car? No. You use a spray gun to atomise it. When you do that you wear a full face mask. You don't do that when you paint your walls.

Comprende?
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Comprende. Thanks for the good explanation and I'm kicking myself now for not thinking of that. Obviously regardless of how much Charlie says he spilled on his hands, Dawn probably will have inhaled more of it, by spraying it on herself, even if Charlie was in the room with her.
 
You wouldn't even need to inhale nerve agent to be effected by it and most of them are broken down by water after a while. It would have been a weak dose to try and make the deaths look like natural causes, but also so it wasn't a suicide mission and they could use an anti-dote after using it. But they ****** up big time.

Russia has a history of poisoning dissidents. But this is the first time they have effected random people as well.
 
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aardvark said:
the laughable russian defence is basically a 'yeah we did it, and we came up with this stupid story and there's not a damn thing you can do about it'.
Its the most obvious admission of guilt i have ever seen a state make.
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It's not a laughable defence, it is blatant FU to the UK. They know the UK can't do anything about it and they don't care.

Nate
 
Danny75 said:
Okay. So explain the consistency in the synchronicity of the Skripal's collapse, which is part of the inconsistency.
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Conspiracy theories really are the Emperor's New Clothes of the internet age - never mind the standard objective measures of intelligence, only I can see the conspiracy here, so I *must* be more intelligent than everyone else.
Dis86 said:
Danny75, delusional loon, or expert troll. You decide.
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If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but has one slightly dishevelled feather, Danny75 will insist it's a lizardman pretending to be a duck as part of a New World Order plot to take over the world.
 
garnett said:
Conspiracy theories really are the Emperor's New Clothes of the internet age - never mind the standard objective measures of intelligence, only I can see the conspiracy here, so I *must* be more intelligent than everyone else.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, but has one slightly dishevelled feather, Danny75 will insist it's a lizardman pretending to be a duck as part of a New World Order plot to take over the world.
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It's the sad desire to be special, or different. We see it in a lot of people. It is usually an indicator that something else is lacking in another part of their life/persona/character though. Unfortunately it's common though, since today we're all pushed to believe we're special little unicorns.
 
Nate--IRL-- said:
It's not a laughable defence, it is blatant FU to the UK. They know the UK can't do anything about it and they don't care.

Nate
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I am sure we could, but we would probably try and avoid leaving clues around or telling anyone about it. Not on these two muppets who are just paid goons, but someone more culpable.

I do not expect that it will happen though, but maybe!
 
adidan said:
I wouldn't trust a guy, who pleaded guilty to 'distributing indecent photographs or pseudo-photographs of children', about anything.
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Is that the guy involved? I've no idea about him or his (Russian?) missus or their motives and connections (I'm a bit ****** to be honest - as in drunk).
 
Yadda said:
Is that the guy involved? I've no idea about him or his (Russian?) missus or their motives and connections (I'm a bit ****** to be honest - as in drunk).
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Oddly they have that snippet buried at the bottom of the 'Royal Prank' section. I would've thought that was more of a story than annoying Charlie.

Edit: ha, tbh I think alcohol helps with clarity in these times :)
 
adidan said:
Oddly they have that snippet buried at the bottom of the 'Royal Prank' section. I would've thought that was more of a story than annoying Charlie.

Edit: ha, tbh I think alcohol helps with clarity in these times :)
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I'll drink to that, cheers!

I'll revisit the story in the morning. :)
 
Yadda said:
Bluff or double bluff?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-45580825
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A hoax is likely to be one line of inquiry after a couple apparently fell ill in a Salisbury restaurant on Sunday prompting a major incident, police sources have told the BBC.

Alex King, 42, was admitted to hospital with his wife, six months after a nerve agent attack in the same city. Mr King is a convicted criminal and once hoaxed Prince Charles.

On Tuesday, Mr King's wife, Anna Shapiro, 30, told the Sun that the Russian state had poisoned her and her husband in Prezzo. Ms Shapiro is a model and an Israeli citizen of Russian heritage.
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Imprison them both if a hoax, then exchange Shapiro for the alleged Russian spies -or- just deport her to Russia as a gesture of goodwill.

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The Sun's original story about the Russian Lingerie model's claims is currently "Unavailable For Legal Reasons" on the Sun’s website. The Sun has declined to say if the Russian Lingerie model managed to con them out of any money ;)
 
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I still don't understand why this part is buried way down in the BBC article:

In 2004, Mr King pleaded guilty at London's Horseferry Road Magistrates' Court to three counts of distributing indecent photographs or pseudo-photographs of children.
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This is not a man to be trusted about anything.
 
This is actually quite incredible.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/20...en-linked-plot-assassinate-montenegrin-prime/

It has previously been shown that the passport numbers on the alleged hitmen's international passports were only 3 digits apart, that they held “Top Secret” and “do not provide information” markings and were issued by an authority normally reserved for intelligence officers and important officials.

It has now emerged that there are only 26 intervening passport numbers between Petrov's document and the cover passport for Col Shishmakov, who was organising the coup before the Montenegro's elections in October 2016 under the alias Eduard Shirokov.
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If true, the authorities almost certainly have the identities and travel movements of almost 30 Russian agents.
 
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