Former Russian double agent seriously ill in Salisbury.

Trusty said:
What you say about the petroyuan is true, it's going to cause problems, but what about if the dollar was backed by the gold standard as well? From my research, that's very much in the works.
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I'll ask again as you're the second person to mention it, what is the connection with the "petroyuan" here? You sound like yet another conspiracy theorist with those comments. Also gold standard? What research?

Has Info wars started talking about the "petroyuan" in relation to this or something?
 
dowie said:
I'll ask again as you're the second person to mention it, what is the connection with the "petroyuan" here? You sound like yet another conspiracy theorist with those comments. Also gold standard? What research?

Has Info wars started talking about the "petroyuan" in relation to this or something?
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Petroyuan - destabilisation, not sure how it links in with stuff.
https://www.rt.com/business/422472-russia-china-petro-yuan/
http://www.atimes.com/article/china-taking-long-road-solve-petro-yuan-puzzle/
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Will-The-Dollar-Survive-The-Petro-Yuan.html

USD Gold backed
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5404/actions?r=4

Notice the date - 22/3/2018
 
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Trusty said:
Petroyuan
https://www.rt.com/business/422472-russia-china-petro-yuan/
http://www.atimes.com/article/china-taking-long-road-solve-petro-yuan-puzzle/
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Energy-General/Will-The-Dollar-Survive-The-Petro-Yuan.html

USD Gold backed
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/5404/actions?r=4

Notice the date - 22/3/2018
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Are you able to post an explanation yourself re: relevance. First your gold standard link is just pure nonsense, a bill that will go no where, but more to the point what is the relevance?
Secondly re the "petroyuan" I know what is being referred to, I'm asking what the relevance is to a former Russian spy being poisoned?
 
I don't know what the connections are really, it's pretty complex, I find it difficult to get my head around a lot of this stuff.

My initial post was just replying to Danny. I haven't been following this thread that closely so maybe I interjected at the wrong time.

Regarding a non gold backed dollar, It basically comes down to inflationary or deflationary sources, paper money is inflationary where as gold is deflationary. The ability to increase supply of paper money decreases the value of it. So you need to ask, who benefits from the ability to control the supply of paper money.
I don't think it's a one country problem, as in, it's not just one country which is evil and the rest are good etc etc, it's a broad range, people from different countries, races & religion all have their fingers in the pie.
 
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Trusty said:
I don't know what the connections are really, it's pretty complex, I find it difficult to get my head around a lot of this stuff.

My initial post was just replying to Danny. I haven't been following this thread that closely so maybe I interjected at the wrong time.

Regarding a non gold backed dollar, It basically comes down to inflationary or deflationary sources, paper money is inflationary where as gold is deflationary. The ability to increase supply of paper money decreases the value of it. So you need to ask, who benefits from the ability to control the supply of paper money.
I don't think it's a one country problem, as in, it's not just one country which is evil and the rest are good etc etc, it's a broad range, people from different countries, races & religion all have their fingers in the pie.
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What does this have to do with the thread???

I know this thread attracts tin foil hat types but waffle about returning to the gold standard seems so off topic here.
 
dowie said:
What does this have to do with the thread???

I know this thread attracts tin foil hat types but waffle about returning to the gold standard seems so off topic here.
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I was replying to Danny, in that I didn't understand what he was meaning about the Russian economy. You've pulled me aside pointing out my posts when none you were directed at you, I realise its a public forum, but to berate me for it, is a bit of nonsense really. I'm not going all tinfoil, thats unfair on me, a smear that I'm an idiot.
 
Trusty said:
I was replying to Danny, in that I didn't understand what he was meaning about the Russian economy. You've pulled me aside pointing out my posts when none you were directed at you, I realise its a public forum, but to berate me for it, is a bit of nonsense really. I'm not going all tinfoil, thats unfair on me, a smear that I'm an idiot.
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You were referencing some (yet to be explained) conspiracy theories and putting forth some ridiculous notion that the US will return to the gold standard according to your 'research'. I'm just asking questions and sorry but the things mentioned fall well into conspiracy theorist territory.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the link to this assassination. I don't need an explanation of what the gold standard is or what is being referred to as the
"petroyuan" I'm just questioning what I see as nonsense being posted in this thread.
 
Danny75 said:
I knew the way that sentence ended up could cause misunderstanding but never got round to tidying it up. I'll rephrase it like so:​
China and Russia are coming in hot. The former economically. And both militarily. As an afterthought I added the part about Russia's self-sufficiency goal.No. I don't feel they trust each other, but they also know western powers would love to see them both weakened.
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Ahh, ok, fair enough, yeah, Russia military is worrying, I know theres corruption everywhere, but surely Russia is worse. Whats worrying is, Putin has so much money he could bribe pretty much anyone I think, he could see his ship go down and not be on it.
Would western power go this far to destabilise those countries? I'm not so sure, it's difficult to get your head around.
 
dowie said:
You were referencing some (yet to be explained) conspiracy theories and putting forth some ridiculous notion that the US will return to the gold standard according to your 'research'. I'm just asking questions and sorry but the things mentioned fall well into conspiracy theorist territory.

I'm still waiting for someone to explain the link to this assassination. I don't need an explanation of what the gold standard is or what is being referred to as the
"petroyuan" I'm just questioning what I see as nonsense being posted in this thread.
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The word conspiracy is closing your mind to certain possibilities I think, if you research USD gold backed, theres a lot more articles, going back several years. It makes sense as the petrodollar has been losing power for a long time, Bretton woods was perhaps the golden era of economics, there are reasons to go back to that. The .gov paper I linked to is the 1st since the dollar was was taken off the gold standard, it needs to be at least considered, not just passed off as conspiracy.
 
A return to the gold standard would be economically devastating for the world at whole, why on earth would the US tank their economy?

Also, what has it got to do with a Russian assassination?
 
Trusty said:
The word conspiracy is closing your mind to certain possibilities I think, if you research USD gold backed, theres a lot more articles, going back several years. It makes sense as the petrodollar has been losing power for a long time, Bretton woods was perhaps the golden era of economics, there are reasons to go back to that. The .gov paper I linked to is the 1st since the dollar was was taken off the gold standard, it needs to be at least considered, not just passed off as conspiracy.
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Again, what is the relevance here?

And yes this return to the gold standard guff is typical CT nonsense...
 
dowie said:
Again, what is the relevance here?

And yes this return to the gold standard guff is typical CT nonsense...
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I've said several times now, I'm not sure how it all links in, but the thread of money, power & destabilisation are linked.

US gold reserves are the largest in the world I believe, for China to back the petroyuan, they need to buy a shed load of it, could America not want to do this?
 
America doesn't have the largest reserve in the world.. When Germany asked for their 300+ tonnes of gold back the US initially told the Germans that it would take 10+ years to do it. To me, and many others, this meant that the Federal reserve didn't have the gold and didn't want to spike the price of gold with massive buys over a short period of time.

It actually took the USA 7 years to give back the 300 ish tonnes, fyi the UK had nearly 1000 tonnes which, when asked, gave it back straight away - no foot dragging needed as they had it in their vaults.

So, if the USA can't give back a small amount of gold to Germany in a timely fashion I think it's safe to say that the USA has very little gold to speak of.
 
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