Forza 2 Demo - Feedback

silversurfer said:
Thats great, I never realised Forza looked so good. Its been hard to improve on obviously.
Does this give some credence to those who would call Forza 2, a Forza 1.5, or Forza HD?

Also notice the different track map in the upper left, the way Forza's shows you the whole track rather than just the next corner or two. It is easy to see where you are on the track just by a glance at the map. I think this is definitely better and I wonder why they changed it for Forza 2.
 
dirtydog said:
Does this give some credence to those who would call Forza 2, a Forza 1.5, or Forza HD?

Also notice the different track map in the upper left, the way Forza's shows you the whole track rather than just the next corner or two. It is easy to see where you are on the track just by a glance at the map. I think this is definitely better and I wonder why they changed it for Forza 2.
Out of curiosity do you have anything at all positive to say about the game?
 
Latest pitpass and a new vid :) http://forzamotorsport.net/news/pitpassreports/pitpass46.htm according to this the full game will look more or less the same as the demo with only simulation damage being added that wasnt in the demo i was hoping the car models would look a bit better in the full game but i am still eager to buy this game and i am sure it will give ages of gaming pleasure :) .
 
dirtydog said:
Does this give some credence to those who would call Forza 2, a Forza 1.5, or Forza HD?

Also notice the different track map in the upper left, the way Forza's shows you the whole track rather than just the next corner or two. It is easy to see where you are on the track just by a glance at the map. I think this is definitely better and I wonder why they changed it for Forza 2.

From the comparison video I'd say the car modelling on FM2 is streets ahead of the original, but the evironments don't appear to be much better (but who cares about them anyway).

As for the map, I'm sure you can change it's appearance in the options. Don't forget, this is only a demo my dear.
 
Nice comparison.. Forza 1 does look very good!..

However, it's clear to see the scenery/moving people/trees and normal mapping reflections are a good improvement over Forza1..

Not to say graphically it's not perfect, of course it isn't, but it has improved on the Physics and it is 60fps, it clearly has improvements that are very noticeable, the reflections alone add a sense of realism that isn't obvious at fist, but for me adds to the immersion.. As do the trees and detailed mountain backdrop, when I'm going down the home straight, I have time to check the scenery out, and it's quite compelling...
 
Just to point out in case anyone missed it, that the comparison video didn't use the same track, simply because the demo track in Forza 2 is not in Forza 1.

Forza 1 does actually have very detailed scenery and it would be interesting if perhaps when Forza 2 is released, to see some comparisons of the same tracks.
 
dirtydog said:
Not much :) I think the only way it is really an improvement over Forza is the framerate.

Dirty Dog
Listen, try and take some of this in...

The point im making regarding the cars is that GT series focus's on making the cars the main interest in graphical quality/terms.

Forza 2 has some fantastic detail in roadside features, its got much more varied tarmac and road surfaces too. Its obvious to me that for example GT HD uses a lot more polys on their cars, and in every other way FM2 looks better, tarmac, shadows, roadside, spectators and its whole enviroment is much better looking.

Many seem to forget that GTHD which they use as a way of comparing each game or even systems and how flawed that is because when the PS3 has to deal with at least 7x AI cars and their physics then system resources will be a lot more stretched than they were in GT HD using a single car.

Of course you being the expert it wont be a problem for Polyphony as the programming or level of talent at turn 10 sucks doesnt it as noted in your previous comments.

The most important factor for any racing game is handling and what fun it can give. After extensive playing ive got onto the handling and learned the track (something of different skill required for each car) and personally i cant wait to race against real people or at least see the AI in Professional setting.

Jaggies aside the game looks great, the damage, the particles of dust and smoke, the audio is easily the best of any racing game bar perhaps GTR that ive witnessed and as an allround racing package and entertaining game well for me im happy with it.

Your welcome to come here and try it in 1080p on my projector, racing seat and wheel with 7.1 audio. Its a big step up over Forza 1, for hevens sake its HD for starters which is so much crisper looking.
 
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Mr Latte said:
Its a big step up over Forza 1, for hevens sake its HD for starters which is so much crisper looking.
'a big step up' - other than framerate and higher resolution, is it really? Doesn't seem like it to me.

There are some interesting views on this site which agree with me: http://www.eurogamer.net/article_discussion.php?article_id=76190&comment_start=0

As for areas other than graphically... are the replays a step up? No they're apparently as bad as in Forza. Is the content a step up? No there are quite a lot less tracks than Forza, and with less variety (apart from NYC, all Forza 2's tracks are relatively dull looking race circuits).
 
DD...

We all can see you don't like it and we can all pretty much guess you wont play it. We know your opinion - is there really any need for you to keep discussing it?

Surely without playing it you can only comment on a limited number of things so by now you're just repeating yourself - its not really doing yourself or anyone else any benefit is it?

This isn't anything against you, but I just don't see any reason for you to keep commenting on it if you have absolutely no intention to play it or don't have any good feelings in general towards the game. Other people who have actually played it and criticised it have made their point once or twice and moved on :)
 
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dirtydog said:
The actual gameplay ones do, I agree :D

Oh i thought you were criticising the replays also?

Thats right you just stick to your original Xbox games, no improvement in this next gen stuff at all.

Have you got a HDTV?
 
Mr Latte said:
Oh i thought you were criticising the replays also?
:confused: I think my point about the replays was clear. Someone in the link I posted made it too, along with many making the same points as me about the graphics in the game in general.
 
Tbh DD you bring nothing to this thread you aint even played the demo so how can you judge a game on game play vids ?, i can clearly see you are in love with Grand Turismo which imo isn't that realistic and besides the original one hasn't introduced anything different since then apart from swished up gfx and more cars/tracks and i thought everyone since the first has been poor.

I wish you would just move to another thread and annoy people there, i even think this is all you do judging by the amount of posts you have put, you even put me off looking in this thread as i know there is going to be some crap you posted again and again and again, same thing over and over.
 
dirtydog said:
:confused: I think my point about the replays was clear. Someone in the link I posted made it too, along with many making the same points as me about the graphics in the game in general.

Have you got an HDTV??

What do you like about the game so far, easy question...
 
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