Forza 2 Demo - Feedback

bingham67 said:
But in most of cases Videos and Screenshots are not full representation of the full game due to compression, touched up, early build blah blah. :) In my experience what i see on screen is much better in majority of games and Forza 2 is one of them.
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I make sure I know what sort of screenshot I am looking at before commenting. For example, lots of people were drooling over a lot of the screenshots, not realising that they were indeed, as you rightly say, not indicative because they weren't true in-game shots. The actual in-game shots show a less pretty picture. Of course I understand about video and image compression issues, I am not a complete noob ;)

Fair enough have your comments but you dont seem interested in consoles at all in a next gen console or no doubt you would have bought one by now.
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I am interested and I addressed this question the other day so won't repeat myself now as it will drag the thread off further into talking about ME and not the game.
 
Well then if you understand about compression then surely you know its better to try game for yourself. Dont want to sound rude but your not experiencing game first hand and by comparing screenshots etc not true showing of final game.

I think you would have a lot more positive to say on the game if you played it. :)
 
I'm still enjoying this demo a lot.
I prefer car games like this to Burnout because It's more In depth and more rewarding when you play It properly.

I dont have any Issues with the graphics at all.

People have to remember that this Is a £200 console .
How much Is a decent graphics card alone these days? £275 on average?
case closed ;)
 
bingham67 said:
Well then if you understand about compression then surely you know its better to try game for yourself. Dont want to sound rude but your not experiencing game first hand and by comparing screenshots etc not true showing of final game.

I think you would have a lot more positive to say on the game if you played it. :)
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I haven't even commented on the gameplay of Forza 2, except in a general sense where it coincides with my direct experience of playing Forza.

We know the content of Forza 2. You will I hope agree that I don't need to own a 360, own an HDTV or own the game, in order to know the content. In my opinion, the content is thin.

Replays. I own Forza 1. I have read here and elsewhere that the replays are the same as Forza 1. Therefore I do not need to own or to play Forza 2, to know that Forza 2's replays are not very good.

Phew...

Right I'm done... :) Unless I am asked to post again.
 
dirtydog said:
I haven't even commented on the gameplay of Forza 2, except in a general sense where it coincides with my direct experience of playing Forza.

We know the content of Forza 2. You will I hope agree that I don't need to own a 360, own an HDTV or own the game, in order to know the content. In my opinion, the content is thin.

Replays. I own Forza 1. I have read here and elsewhere that the replays are the same as Forza 1. Therefore I do not need to own or to play Forza 2, to know that Forza 2's replays are not very good.

Phew...

Right I'm done... :) Unless I am asked to post again.
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But your coments suggest you beleive everything you read on the internet.
ie- i dont have to own a HDTV or the game ect.
do you not watch certain films because some people say they are crap?

personaly stuff them i watch the film for my self and form "my" "own" opinion.
 
dirtydog said:
Not everything. I've learned to treat Microsoft and Turn 10's claims with scepticism for example :D
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lol. do you have access to an Xbox360?
I'd just like you to "experience" the subject your discussing more.
Dont get me wrong I'm not saying Its the best car game ever but I've played it for about 4 hours now and have a "real" feel for the game rather than just taking in facts and stats collated from numerous sources on the internet.
the best source would be "you"

you following me?
 
dirtydog said:
I haven't even commented on the gameplay of Forza 2, except in a general sense where it coincides with my direct experience of playing Forza.

We know the content of Forza 2. You will I hope agree that I don't need to own a 360, own an HDTV or own the game, in order to know the content. In my opinion, the content is thin.

Replays. I own Forza 1. I have read here and elsewhere that the replays are the same as Forza 1. Therefore I do not need to own or to play Forza 2, to know that Forza 2's replays are not very good.

Phew...

Right I'm done... :) Unless I am asked to post again.
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But you take a dig at game right without playing it.

Like this comment of yours.

I think the only way it is really an improvement over Forza is the framerate.
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How can you make that assumption when you have not even played the game in the full game there hell lot more even reviews explain this. And all that is what your not seeing i think its ludicrous to say it just has framerate improvement have you not seen the features more customisation options for a start. You might not like them but they are the for all to see so this game hardly just a framerate improvement its a lot of improvement.

Fair enough criticise the features i have no problems with that yes there not all the tracks etc and yes replay do suck. But when you look deeply into the game there is much more of improvement then you might think. :)
 
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This is odd. The car handles and brakes completely differently in chase view to Bumper or dials. The difference between my laptimes is 30 seconds literally. In chase view I can't even brake from a straightline in the same way. The car seems to turn in much much harder as well. To the point that it spins with the slightest turn it.

In the other views I have no problems at all with the brakes, turn or oversteer. I can pretty much catch anything. (This is in the TVR). All aids off.
 
forming an opinion about this game without playing it is just plain silly, DD your not stupid mate so why do you continue to act like it, nothing you say will be taken seriously until you've at least given the game a good try out on a HD TV, I'm not singling you out personaly as I would'nt really take on board anyones opinion unless they have tryed the game out in the right conditions, I was quite skeptical about the game and going from I've experianced in the demo it does have it's short comings but the actual feel of the game I thought was really good and after a few laps I fell in love.
 
Time for a X360 and HDTV Dirty Dog, their HAS to be some games EVEN YOU would like on the Platform.

70hs gameplay is not lack of content imo and the game will have many challenges throughout career mode. Just because GT had more tracks and more cars doesnt mean it was actually any more fun to play, content and quality of content are two different things. GT suffers from its own major crimes its AI dont offer good races, it has no multiplayer to back it up and endurances races are so boring. Lets not forget from a sim aspect Forza leaves it well behind.

Im so hyped about doing my own paint jobs and buying or even at least seeing some amazing designs from others online. Everyones own custom cars racing it out. Now theirs a replay worth saving...
 
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Mr Latte said:
Lets face it the PC is still the ultimate platform particulary for hardcore racing people so if someone comes along and shows me some videos or shots of a game that blows FM2 away then hell i might be interested in it...
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But you said a few posts ago, that 'handling and fun factor' were the most important things with racing games. Which I agree wholeheartedly with.

If you were to take PS2 graphics into a proper simulator it would be a lot more fun and a bigger buzz than just a PC with fancy graphics.
We are a million miles away from reality with these games, and Im totally dumbstruck over the frenzy caused by the release of Forza 2.
I never played Forza 1, so the comparisons are irrelvant to some of us, my first impressions are that the game is very smooth, but Im struggling with the wheel, its clumsy and unnatural, and the pedals are just triggers that sit on the floor, hopefully I'll get used to it.
PC racing games are not ideal for a quick pick up and play, I always fall into the configuration trap, things change too quicky.
At the moment I'll take Forza 2 and a plug and play wheel in my front room and suffer some jaggies.
To me Forza 2 and LFS on the PC are the same fun as Ridger Racer 6 and Full Auto, all the games are made to stimulate the senses into having a good time and hopefully get a buzz out of it, but it seems too many people have more fun getting wrapped up in the snobbery of the technical points between various games and platforms. And I still dont agree with the word 'simulation', until we have more force feedback hardware.
Best thing to hit this hobby in recent times, is affordable large screens, Ive always said I'll keep stand def and a large screen over high res on a 17" monitor, which is what most of us were playing the classics like Sports car GT and Grand Prix Legends on, nearly 10 years ago was it? doesnt feel like we've come that far TBH, not to warrant the deep discusions anyway.
Have fun :)
 
SC04 said:
But you said a few posts ago, that 'handling and fun factor' were the most important things with racing games. Which I agree wholeheartedly with.
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Yes but someone else criticises everything about the game I agree it has some quirks that annoy me) Others that have slated the demo or the released media, what im asking nicely is fine you dont like this or that about the graphics and thats the persons opinion, thats fine personal choice but when they go further and slate them beyond the actual truth or indeed are asked to represent a game that has much superior looking graphics, so far weve yet to see an example that puts this game to shame.

Thats my point, as a sim im only after a game that offers great racing and nice handling, it seems from the demo and using the wheel it has managed this. Im not expecting it to be highly looked upon as a realistic sim, its still a console game aimed for the masses.

Comments regarding medicore are just not deserved and perhps only mentioned to create a debate.
 
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I for one would prefer 30fps and 4xAA, no AA and 60fps = stairway to heaven

GTHD is gunna blow this game clear out of the water and that aint no fanboy comment!

Mabye Che needs to go back to the 1up show, i cant remember the last time i played a game without AA??
 
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