Forza 2 latest Update and Demo Discussion Thread
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I know the tyres in the first Forza made a noise at the merest provocation as well - is Forza 2 any different or worse?
I also found the vibration when you corner and brake was so intrusive (virtually every corner or every time you brake) that I had to turn it off. Funnily enough when I drive in real life my car and steering wheel don't vibrate like that... ever
I also found the vibration when you corner and brake was so intrusive (virtually every corner or every time you brake) that I had to turn it off. Funnily enough when I drive in real life my car and steering wheel don't vibrate like that... ever
dirtydog said:I also found the vibration when you corner and brake was so intrusive (virtually every corner or every time you brake) that I had to turn it off. Funnily enough when I drive in real life my car and steering wheel don't vibrate like that... ever
Agreed, it seemed the feedback was not coming from the road at all, just coming from, oh he is braking, vibrate, oh he is turning, vibrate, I want feedback from the road.
So good to see your so positive about the game.
Well Blim from Xboxyde has played more than you as hes played FM2.
Your assuming this and that hes played it, mmm yeah ill take his word on it that its pretty good.
Internal views are usually always hampered in some way, well for me personally, i prefer the additional sense of speed from a bonnet cam and i can drive quicker with it and its wider view of the track. Thats not saying it wouldnt be nice to have an internal view, it would but even PR3 was evident these views can have their own issues.
Advanced FM1 players can use the wheel and set fast times so i have no doubt in my mind that the controller will be any faster, the controller will however be less enjoyable and probably easier to use but not slower/faster. Maybe research some forums rather than just speculate and you will come to the same conclusion.
If i find the wheel dissapointing then it and the race seat will be sold on, simple as that. I will give it an honest review as some have asked for feedback on it...
Well Blim from Xboxyde has played more than you as hes played FM2.
Your assuming this and that hes played it, mmm yeah ill take his word on it that its pretty good.
Internal views are usually always hampered in some way, well for me personally, i prefer the additional sense of speed from a bonnet cam and i can drive quicker with it and its wider view of the track. Thats not saying it wouldnt be nice to have an internal view, it would but even PR3 was evident these views can have their own issues.
Advanced FM1 players can use the wheel and set fast times so i have no doubt in my mind that the controller will be any faster, the controller will however be less enjoyable and probably easier to use but not slower/faster. Maybe research some forums rather than just speculate and you will come to the same conclusion.
If i find the wheel dissapointing then it and the race seat will be sold on, simple as that. I will give it an honest review as some have asked for feedback on it...
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Mr Men said:
you don't know the answer to this
It's general consensous that tyres arn't meant to squeel. If you are driving fast, then ideally your tyres should be kept from making that noise. The noise comes from when you are close to losing grip. Ideally, you don't want to be in that situation and lap times will improve if you stay away from the noise, it will give you more grip to accelerate out of the corners quicker.
hilly said:
Kinda like you can in a GO-CART at 10 mph
Too much squeeling your loosing speed/time.
GTHD is further evident of this dont squeel the tires, use good throttle control and you will save a lot of time, yet dont even seem to be driving as fast, just more controlled and smoother.
Mr Men said:So if you turn down the noise then the tyres grip?
good physics
No I didn't say this at all. You never mentioned ANYTHING about grip you simply said you didn't like the noise.
When Latte mentioned you could turn the tire noise down - THEN you swapped to "oh but it's the grip really".
Robert said:No I didn't say this at all. You never mentioned ANYTHING about grip you simply said you didn't like the noise.
When Latte mentioned you could turn the tire noise down - THEN you swapped to "oh but it's the grip really".
I guess I am used to talking about sims with the PC crowd, sorry I should have been clearer for you, obviously I meant the sound was in direct relation to the tyre grip.
since a lot of your driving feedback on sims come from sound, if I hear tyre screeech on a PC sim then I know oops too much, on Forza it seems the norm for any sort of corner at any sort of speed, even on a straight.Mr Latte said:
Yea exactly, when you drive in such a way it DOES feel slower. But yea is definately a lot quicker. The people with the more "lazy" styles are usually the better drivers, it's all about being smooth, which is like the likes of Alonso, Hakkinen, Hill and Schumacher all have won world championships and are reknown for that type of driving.
Mr Men with all due respect your going on criticising and you dont even know what the 360 wheel does, if it offers FFB or how its going to work with the 360fps physics engine.
Maybe just maybe people criticising the game can wait to the game is out or at least the demo before you keep on criticising, stop and read your posts for a minute. Ive also yet to play the perfect racing game and anyone that assumes this one will be will be dissapointed also.
I do not for one minute expect FM2 to be an ultimate sim in sim terms.
What i do expect is that it will be a very fun sim with good sim aspects particulary as its on a console. Its clearly going to be the best game for the wheel yet for the system and discussions for the wheel in many forums ive visited seem to be getting a lot of people interested.
If your judging the game by video of people that have had probably 5 mins on the thing and drive it just like an arcade game then their the fault not the game their going into corners too fast locking up wheels etc. Watch some of the better videos with better driving and i dont see the problem with the braking or the noise.
Maybe just maybe people criticising the game can wait to the game is out or at least the demo before you keep on criticising, stop and read your posts for a minute. Ive also yet to play the perfect racing game and anyone that assumes this one will be will be dissapointed also.
I do not for one minute expect FM2 to be an ultimate sim in sim terms.
What i do expect is that it will be a very fun sim with good sim aspects particulary as its on a console. Its clearly going to be the best game for the wheel yet for the system and discussions for the wheel in many forums ive visited seem to be getting a lot of people interested.
If your judging the game by video of people that have had probably 5 mins on the thing and drive it just like an arcade game then their the fault not the game their going into corners too fast locking up wheels etc. Watch some of the better videos with better driving and i dont see the problem with the braking or the noise.
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Mr Latte said:
Unless they have a separate version for the wheel then I guess its going to work just the same as a pad, I am sure I read the MS wheel is not FFB like on PC sims but just rumble motors and a strong spring to give it tension.
Anyway if Turn10 finally deliver a demo we can soon all see how it is.
The game and the MS wireless wheel do have proper FFB apparently.
http://forzamotorsport.net/news/announcements/feedback.htm
http://forzamotorsport.net/news/announcements/feedback.htm
I suggest you read up on the game and the wheel before you criticise any further. It seems your not too well informed.
Watch the import generations video, thats the last pit pass one. I see no problem with tyre sounds with Che's driving in the Red mazda. Hes very good on throttle and braking in most corners even if the car sounds like a fly swatter.
However right on the first lap the view changes to a bonnet cam of an AI (on profesional setting) car The RX7 locking up behind the Evo turning into the tight left hander and you get "that sound" thats annoying. Imo thats a locked wheel not sceetching for grip, entirely different circumstances for physics.
Watch the import generations video, thats the last pit pass one. I see no problem with tyre sounds with Che's driving in the Red mazda. Hes very good on throttle and braking in most corners even if the car sounds like a fly swatter.
However right on the first lap the view changes to a bonnet cam of an AI (on profesional setting) car The RX7 locking up behind the Evo turning into the tight left hander and you get "that sound" thats annoying. Imo thats a locked wheel not sceetching for grip, entirely different circumstances for physics.
Mr Men said:At 30MPH tyres screech? I suggest you watch more video's, and attend some real racing events, tyres do not screech every time you turn the wheel even in a straight to change your line by 10mm
Maybe you can point out the video which leads you to think the noise is overused. I understand just fine how tyres exert noise on a track, when the car is braking/cornering hard. Doesn't always lend to aggressive driving particularly, but occurs often through a race, varying on the particular tyre being used.
I'm just saying I'd expect there to be a lot of screeching going on in demo vids, I can't see a thing wrong with that. And like Latte clearly pointed out, if it frustrates you so much .... turn the volume down.