Foundation - TV Series (2021)

Might not be getting cancelled after all thankfully.

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‘Foundation’ Sets Season 3 Production Restart Date

EXCLUSIVE: Foundation, the Apple TV+ series from Skydance TV, is set to resume production on its upcoming third season March 6 in the Czech Republic capital Prague and Poland, Deadline has learned. The cast and crew of the sci-fi drama starring Jared Harris and Lee Pace were just notified about...
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englishpremier said:
Why does it have to?
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Why bother calling it Foundation then? Why not call it something else entirely if its nothing whatever to do with the source material? You'd almost think they bought a "name" i.e. a well known author and title and used it to promote a TV series that had nothing to do with either... You might as well call it A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens because it makes about as much sense.
 
I'm a bit confused as to the claims it has little resemblance to the books overall it uses most of the main concepts and characters with some changes to something which would work better as a TV series. Sure there are some major plot points missing and some characters are a hybrid of 2-3 characters, etc. but mostly it is because the full arc of those characters individually really isn't that interesting, etc.
 
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I was listening to the audio books and they are alright but I gave up when I got to Foundation And Earth

The first few books were good and the mules first appearance was an amazing moment, but slowly I started to get bored.

It's almost like turn your brain off and just listen.


The Three Body Problem series is still my fav scifi so far.
Thought provoking and intriguing for the most part, slowly falls off at the last book and the ending is meh


I tried The Children of time after and it's just not for me at all, felt more like a children's book..


I've moved on to Expeditionary Force and that seems superb so far for the first 90 mins, the guy reading the book seems to do a really good job as well.

Ahh they made a nice advert for the audiobook that is spoiler free
14 books long though :O

First books free on audible
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Expeditionary Force

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Gf has a trial with apple tv for 3 months. Pain as doesn't work with chromecast!

Tried this.. She really wasn't keen.. I'm not that keen.
Comes across a tad like the expanse (too complex for me).
I'm willing to give it another episode. But gf definitely won't.

Does it get any more.. Not sure how to describe it.. Eccentric? But at the same time "monotonal"?
 
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Oh Yes,

Season 1 set up the large concept of time... Not time travel per say but time passing. Thinking sci-fi and future world building rather than pew pew pew.
 
SPG said:
Oh Yes,

Season 1 set up the large concept of time... Not time travel per say but time passing. Thinking sci-fi and future world building rather than pew pew pew.
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I think E1 seemed "flat" and complex. The characters were a bit samey. I do want to give it a go as it isn't as complex (imo) as expanse. And the premise seemed interesting. But it certainly didn't grab me
 
413x said:
Gf has a trial with apple tv for 3 months. Pain as doesn't work with chromecast!

Tried this.. She really wasn't keen.. I'm not that keen.
Comes across a tad like the expanse (too complex for me).
I'm willing to give it another episode. But gf definitely won't.

Does it get any more.. Not sure how to describe it.. Eccentric? But at the same time "monotonal"?
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I think it's been a good amalgamation of the trilogy plus bits from his other books and a few extra tweaks to adapt for the small screen.

Can't really be like the Expanse as the books were written a looong time before that was even an idea.

I'd advise sticking with it, I loved the books and enjoyed the first two seasons for what they are.

Then again, it's not going to be everybody's cup of tea.
 
I finally got round to watching it!!!
Didn't read the books, so have no reference point, but it seems a bit Hollywood to me. Not very Asimov at all. Or maybe it is just not being portrayed well. My main complaint is the character Gaal Dornick, who seems to spend her entire time running around completely ******** things up! Not once, but multiple times. She is an absolute liability. Even her daughter makes more sense than she does.

You know, it actually makes me quite sad. Back when they were written, the human race was full of optimism. Space flight was just a matter of time. We were set to conquer the speed of light and then the universe. Force fields, ray guns, you name it, everything was possible, everything was going to be better. Now, It's all changed. We have doubts as to whether we will survive the next century, and even if we do then we probably aren't going any further than the solar system.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
I finally got round to watching it!!!
Didn't read the books, so have no reference point, but it seems a bit Hollywood to me. Not very Asimov at all. Or maybe it is just not being portrayed well. My main complaint is the character Gaal Dornick, who seems to spend her entire time running around completely ******** things up! Not once, but multiple times. She is an absolute liability. Even her daughter makes more sense than she does.

You know, it actually makes me quite sad. Back when they were written, the human race was full of optimism. Space flight was just a matter of time. We were set to conquer the speed of light and then the universe. Force fields, ray guns, you name it, everything was possible, everything was going to be better. Now, It's all changed. We have doubts as to whether we will survive the next century, and even if we do then we probably aren't going any further than the solar system.
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Thats news outlets for you............ money money money.
 
SpellowHouse said:
I finally got round to watching it!!!
Didn't read the books, so have no reference point, but it seems a bit Hollywood to me. Not very Asimov at all. Or maybe it is just not being portrayed well. My main complaint is the character Gaal Dornick, who seems to spend her entire time running around completely ******** things up! Not once, but multiple times. She is an absolute liability. Even her daughter makes more sense than she does.

You know, it actually makes me quite sad. Back when they were written, the human race was full of optimism. Space flight was just a matter of time. We were set to conquer the speed of light and then the universe. Force fields, ray guns, you name it, everything was possible, everything was going to be better. Now, It's all changed. We have doubts as to whether we will survive the next century, and even if we do then we probably aren't going any further than the solar system.
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I really enjoyed the parts of the show focused on Empire, they were interesting and the actors were mostly fantastic.

The two female leads were awful however, weak actresses playing questionable characters. Were it not for the other half of the show being so good they would have been more than enough to make me quit if they took up most of the screen time.

Some of the comedic parts felt very out of place too imo.
 
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SpellowHouse said:
Not very Asimov at all
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Pure Asimov would be very niche and hard to do in film/TV and keep it interesting and/or do the scope of it justice, but I know what you mean about the optimism, etc.

Sadly, and not really surprising, a lot of people have very short sighted concerns about the here and now and what gets the through the next day and can't see it is a dead end versus putting resources into the future and expanding beyond what we have now.
 
Rroff said:
Pure Asimov would be very niche and hard to do in film/TV and keep it interesting and/or do the scope of it justice, but I know what you mean about the optimism, etc.

Sadly, and not really surprising, a lot of people have very short sighted concerns about the here and now and what gets the through the next day and can't see it is a dead end versus putting resources into the future and expanding beyond what we have now.
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I remember people saying the same about Lord of the Rings it'll never get made its too niche people will never watch a serious movie about elves and trolls and bloody wizards! Until someone did. All it takes is someone with vision and a passion for the project.
 
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Blackjack Davy said:
I remember people saying the same about Lord of the Rings it'll never get made its too niche people will never watch a serious movie about elves and trolls and bloody wizards! Until someone did. All it takes is someone with vision and a passion for the project.
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No one has really done something quite like that before or since though. And pure Asimov can be quite conceptual, some of it spends a lot of time painting individual connected scenes rather than a more traditional story progression, etc. which for many audiences would be quite dry which is much harder than LOTR to translate to something interesting over the length of a movie/TV show without doing what they've essentially done with Foundation of taking the cliff notes/core concept and building something around them.
 
Gray2233 said:
I really enjoyed the parts of the show focused on Empire, they were interesting and the actors were mostly fantastic.

The two female leads were awful however, weak actresses playing questionable characters. Were it not for the other half of the show being so good they would have been more than enough to make me quit if they took up most of the screen time.

Some of the comedic parts felt very out of place too imo.
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It's funny, isn't it, the way there was that sharp division. Like there were two writers. But then, I wonder if there were? And of course, yes, the two girls were not really up to scratch either.
 
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Tried to rewatch this as lack of content is starting to hit.

But I can't understand it. Got to e3. But same as the dark and witcher I can't cope with thr number of characters + time jumps + location jumps.

Its just getting muddier and muddier.

I think i just have to accept there is a certain type of show that's beyond my understanding.
 
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