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Sir, are you suggesting the OP pull the much maligned "Trevor Jordash" manoeuvre?
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Sir, are you suggesting the OP pull the much maligned "Trevor Jordash" manoeuvre?
But seriously, yikes. I think my family are a special case sometimes. I have a personal policy of just disengaging if I ever encounter a looney tunes character, but my other half always seems fascinated and gets drawn into conversations.
Being in a business relationship with a fruitcake must be the absolute worst. Stay strong!
We’re looking at a mental health assessment from afar by using gathered texts, emails and written statements from staff.
At this point we will get guidance as to whether we have a case for removal as a director under mental health grounds, then we engage with a specialist legal team who then start the process.
He’s essentially said she will take “his” company to a tribunal and that our case is so flimsy that they will ask for our solicitor to be censured and threatened him as such. The strange thing is we have an entirely separate legal team that look after our Employment issues.
They are suggesting there are bundles of emails as "evidence" to prove wrongdoing, shame there isn't, unless it's been fabricated and at this stage I wouldn't put it past them.
I’ll try and you all you posted, this is definitely popcorn worthy, especially if the police knock on his door and he tries his Freeman methods.
At this point we will get guidance as to whether we have a case for removal as a director under mental health grounds, then we engage with a specialist legal team who then start the process.
He’s essentially said she will take “his” company to a tribunal and that our case is so flimsy that they will ask for our solicitor to be censured and threatened him as such. The strange thing is we have an entirely separate legal team that look after our Employment issues.
They are suggesting there are bundles of emails as "evidence" to prove wrongdoing, shame there isn't, unless it's been fabricated and at this stage I wouldn't put it past them.
I’ll try and you all you posted, this is definitely popcorn worthy, especially if the police knock on his door and he tries his Freeman methods.
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Well ... there's probably something in freeman lore about funerals being a tax we don't have to pay
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I'm not a solicitor but I am a business owner; do you know what your Articles of Association say or when they were created/updated? Removal of directorship due to mental health was removed from the model articles in 2013:
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/model-articles-of-association-for-limited-companies
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/model-articles-of-association-for-limited-companies
So his partner is now suing his business for unfair dismissal as per the email that was sent today which was clearly sent by him.
If you're struggling to keep up then don't worry about it, i'm struggling to comprehend the craziness too.
If you're struggling to keep up then don't worry about it, i'm struggling to comprehend the craziness too.
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We can quite easily, he posts on this very forum regularly
I was thinking mmj_uk’s family could be reading this thinking ‘yeah, yeah oh wow we aren’t the only ones !’
It's over, yesterday he was bought out of the two companies. We ended up paying about 50% of the EBITDA valuation due to his masterful negotiation skills.
I had to resign my positions in the end to force his hand, when he found out 25% of the staff were also leaving his partner (looks to be a key in all the business related stuff) panicked and told him to accept the deal that was on offer. General feeling is she is going to fleece him.
Lots has happened in the last 6 weeks, I really need to write all this down as a number of professionals have told me its the worst case of a family business fall out they have ever seen.
Even to the end his madness was evident, for example he couldn't remember what colour pen he needed to use for the Share Purchase Agreement document so had to consult with his "lawyer". He started to educate our accountants Tax advisor on how he will not be paying tax.
Anyway, I/we need to move on.
Thanks all that showed an interest, if i do get anything written down i'll come back and share it.
I had to resign my positions in the end to force his hand, when he found out 25% of the staff were also leaving his partner (looks to be a key in all the business related stuff) panicked and told him to accept the deal that was on offer. General feeling is she is going to fleece him.
Lots has happened in the last 6 weeks, I really need to write all this down as a number of professionals have told me its the worst case of a family business fall out they have ever seen.
Even to the end his madness was evident, for example he couldn't remember what colour pen he needed to use for the Share Purchase Agreement document so had to consult with his "lawyer". He started to educate our accountants Tax advisor on how he will not be paying tax.
Anyway, I/we need to move on.
Thanks all that showed an interest, if i do get anything written down i'll come back and share it.
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Wow - glad to hear its moved on and you have him out of the business finally.
Take some time to recover mentally, but writing it all down could be quite a cathartic process to help. Does sound like there's more to come though, with the partner fleecing him and the revenue "educating" him that tax isn't a choice.
Everyone has a book in them apparently, sounds like you've got the plot of yours.
Take some time to recover mentally, but writing it all down could be quite a cathartic process to help. Does sound like there's more to come though, with the partner fleecing him and the revenue "educating" him that tax isn't a choice.
Everyone has a book in them apparently, sounds like you've got the plot of yours.
Wow, and I thought having to listen to my Mum quote the Daily Mail at me was pretty bad. Luckily i’ve learnt the art of “glazing over” whenever that waste of paper is mentioned.
Glad you got it resolved, pity you had to go so far to make it happen.
Glad you got it resolved, pity you had to go so far to make it happen.
The reality is hitting home with him now, he didn't negotiate his mobile phone numbers so has demanded the PAC codes today for himself and his partner.
First reply to our Ops Director:
Second reply when informed the police will be called if he attempts to gain access and a request for 14.5k to release them (this is approx the amount he extorted from the company just prior to him leaving)
The "Policy" offices was a deliberate typo.
First reply to our Ops Director:
Second reply when informed the police will be called if he attempts to gain access and a request for 14.5k to release them (this is approx the amount he extorted from the company just prior to him leaving)
The "Policy" offices was a deliberate typo.
Are the handsets and the numbers registered on a business account to the business? If so neither belong to him, that's pretty much the 'legal situation' for him.
If the business owns the handsets & the numbers then the Ops director could spin this and request that the handsets (company property) be returned or else it's theft.
Reporting that theft to the network would suspend the number and place the handsets on the IMEI blacklist, making them worthless slabs of glass & plastic.
"Blasting the *** out of him"
I hope he hasn't got a shotgun or anything? If he's gone down the rabbit hole of survivalism?
Might be worth informing the police before he turns up
The whole lot is the companies, we didn't pursue the new iPhones, Macbooks or iMacs as he was unhinged over the whole deal as it was. I kept the whole phone thing up my sleeve as I didn't want to draw attention to any potential issues as now I can have some fun with him.
Essentially he's just tried to extract as much money and inflict as much pain as he could without thinking about some of the necessary things in life that he needs.
We also have trawled through his WORK emails and can show he has defrauded the company with his partner by creating a false compromise agreement between her and the business when they were told they didn't have a leg to stand on to extract 30k tax free. She retired then argued I had sacked her with zero evidence.
The Police have been forwarded the emails against a previous complaint reference for threatening behaviour. If he does show up there will be no shortage of footage.
I'd be tempted to request the return of the handsets as they are company property then let him complete a transfer of ownership for the account. Sure he gets the number but he would also then be liable for the reminder of the contract term including monthly payments and have no phone to use the sim card
Vindictive me would just call the operator and have the phones blacklisted. If I had remote access, doing a full factory wipe just prior...
As for his partner, invite them to begin an unfair dismissal case. She'll lose but then the fraud will be out in the open....
we have it on his emails that he’s colluded with his partner to defraud the business of 34k in
a fictional dismissal case. I have a good mind to have a strongly worded solicitor letter demanding the return of the funds, it’s tax evasion pure and simple, all done while I was on holiday.