Yeah the situations you describe make sense to top up a bit of range. I was more thinking about actually running out of juice and ending up having to ask a random stranger for a plug socket. To be fair, even in the current crazy situation, I'd much rather run out of fuel than run out of charge as the AA will still come to me with a can which will give me 30 odd miles to find a working pump.
Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)
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Apparently recovery vans now have chargers they can use to get enough power to an EV to get to the nearest proper charger. (Maybe just RAC?)
Any normal person won't pay 15p/litre extra at a services.
I dont think there is one within 50 miles of me,. define "rapid charge though"?
50kw+
I’ve got no idea where you live but I can’t believe you are 50 miles from one if you live in England or Scotland.
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It's OK, carry on pretending.
talking a few quid difference for a full tank, unless you’re on the breadline it’s completely irrelevant
U w0t?
I've never used a motorway services petrol station in 20+ years of driving. If I got caught with no other option then I'd throw a couple gallons in, then find somewhere else that's not a rip-off.
U w0t?
I've never used a motorway services petrol station in 20+ years of driving. If I got caught with no other option then I'd throw a couple gallons in, then find somewhere else that's not a rip-off.
Same here, motorway fuel prices are disgraceful.
Completely agree, same reason I'd not buy a bottle of coke at WHSMITHS at the Services, £3 for a 500ml bottle. Mental. I've been driving for 20 plus years, very rarely fill up on the motorway unless absolutely necessary.
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In fairness he isn’t (although that’s how I read it initially) see his reply to me in post #1002
To be fair it wasnt me in post 1002.
I was not saying that a cabbage picker is comparable to an HGV driver no, I mentioned 4 jobs/roles and how they varied from a low number of low/non transferrable skills to one with more and higher.
The point was that when people talk about low skilled vs skilled they treat it as a binary choice when the reality is there is a large variation from one extreme to the other, its not even really two dimensional.
You can have a very precise hardly transferable skill that is beyond the challenge for most people, but that doesnt necessarily make it a highly valuable skill.
Lorry drivers don't have in the grand scheme of things a massive amount nor many particularly advanced skills. Simply rating a job based on the skills is somewhat over simplifying equation. Its ignoring supply and demand potentially, barriers to entry, plus many other factors.
The value added by lorry drivers is not really originating from the skills, its being able to take those skills and consistently and safely utilise them.
Go back to when typists were a thing, generally professional typists were highly regarded. They would be measured on words per minute, and would manage to pump out frankly absurd levels of output compared to a normal person. Most normal people struggled to type a couple of lines without getting a wrong key, and they would probably take them 5 minutes
And yet they were also not regarded as high skilled employees.HGV driving is not highly skilled, but its highly responsible. This is part of the issue, only fixating on the skill level and ignoring the other factors will lead to either incorrect pay for the job, and people confusing other factors (such as in this case the responsibility).
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Yeah and he's not even talking about a full tank, he's talking about 10 litres at most. probably wouldnt cost him more than 2 quid extra
the horror.It's a matter of principal, not paying the Man - if you're on your own time/money and a road trip somewhere, knowing range was tight,
you plan where to get off the motorway at a nearby shopping centre say, to refuel , satnavs have got to have some benefits
... and, eat your sandwiches+coffee, unless you have culinary delights on the AutoStrada awaiting.
just ringing a couple of garages, on the 150mile round trip planned a fortnight ago showed it was mission impossible - with < 1/4 tank.;
as MikeTimbers said didn't have faith.
you plan where to get off the motorway at a nearby shopping centre say, to refuel , satnavs have got to have some benefits
... and, eat your sandwiches+coffee, unless you have culinary delights on the AutoStrada awaiting.
just ringing a couple of garages, on the 150mile round trip planned a fortnight ago showed it was mission impossible - with < 1/4 tank.;
as MikeTimbers said didn't have faith.
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By the way, the commercial traveller is not paying the displayed prices on motorway service stations. He will have a company card with a pre-agreed price centrally negotiated by his company with the fuel provider company.
you are right, there is one 20 miles away at Lidl, next nearest is 30 miles away. Neither are a few miles like you claim
Love the “he” assumption. Very 1960s!
99.3% of HGV drivers are male.
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I enjoyed another 30 minute queue this morning. No super unleaded. Lots of petrol pumps free, but all the diesel vans/lorries blocking the entrance. At least it was still reasonable priced.