Fuel up/down again

Your views are those of the left economically

Dolph's views tend to be those of the right economically

Dolph is correct in his view, you are not.

Actually, I'm heavily influenced by right wing economic ideology. Practicallity normally gets in the way however. Economically, I am still right leaning removing our current social history and demographic.

When you layer that history back ontop, I can't see a justifiable managed transition to anything anywhere near what Dolph proposes sometimes. There go, I have to dispute what I disagree on.

Politically and morally I'm left of centre, sometimes by a large mark, and that has a profound effect on someones arguments who also see logic in economics of the right.

If you want to put it down to a left/right argument, and Dolph always being correct well that's up to you to have you're own god.

I know that people with a mind like his, given the opportunity, can do more damage to the fabric of our society than anyone on the apparent 'left'.

However, I'd like you to actually go and quote me being of the economic 'left'?

The only real economic posturing I like to take part in is that of Scotland, and my proposals there are actually rather right leaning.

Just because I do not accept much liberal right argument as making any sense for the economic case in the UK doesn't mean anything. The UK is ****ered so it's like a sticking plaster on a sinking ship.

But, anyway Dolph's right so what does it matter eh?

:D
 
In most of the public sector threads and other such things in SC you tend to be on the same side as Thesaff, which is on the left side of things.

There is nothing practically unworkable in what Dolph suggests, which is to have a flat (%) tax rate, with a healthy untaxed amount. All it needs is for government to STOP WASTING MONEY, to run things it needs to run efficiently, to provide access to some services rather than the services themselves, etc.

It can all work, even in the modern world. The problem is that there are far too many vested interests in politics, and the only thing that actually changes are the colours of the ties.
 
In most of the public sector threads and other such things in SC you tend to be on the same side as Thesaff, which is on the left side of things.

'left side of things'. So not 'economically' left then?

So, so what?

I argue along side some people sometimes, sometimes they come and argue along side me?

What does any of that mean in a discussion forum I wonder? ;)

Well, stop foisting what you believe of other people onto me because of association.

Ta. :)

There is nothing practically unworkable in what Dolph suggests, which is to have a flat (%) tax rate, with a healthy untaxed amount. All it needs is for government to STOP WASTING MONEY, to run things it needs to run efficiently, to provide access to some services rather than the services themselves, etc.

That is the normal-ish position of the right. Even then it can't work, so hasn't been implimented. Maybe in the future, not right now.

Dolph quite often oversteps that economically to the extreme. Not always, but certainly sometimes. Economic views of past taken too litterarly, with little concern for social impact in the implimentation.

But then if you too believe getting on that bike will solve the countries economic ills, I don't think you'll see what I'm getting at.

It can all work, even in the modern world. The problem is that there are far too many vested interests in politics, and the only thing that actually changes are the colours of the ties.

It can work in a modern world, just not in the UK.
 
As a matter of interest Biohazard do you subscribe to the view that the best way to deal with the current debt is to spend our way out of it or to reduce our deficit ?

Only an idiot would argue otherwise.

However I'll add two caveats.

One, I don't agree with all the descisions made particularly around big ticket items and other areas of high government spending. They are looking too intensely in the wrong place.

Second, it won't make a jot of difference, hard cuts or soft cuts, too early too late or just right, Liberal Tory or Labour, the UK will still be hemorrhaging profusely.
 
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I used to believe that Supermarkets used fuel as a Loss Leader to encourage people to their shops to do all their shopping. Unfortunately I no longer believe this. If the price at the supermarkets is usually the same as at all the other non-supermarket fuel stations in the area, then either the supermarket isn't subsidising the fuel anywhere near as much as they used to, if at all, or the local stations were overpricing. I know that some stations may make little to no profit, possibly even a small loss and rely on sales in the shop to make this up, but to me that just means that the Supermarkets are now either making a profit from their fuel or are simply breaking even.

In my town we have two Shell stations and a morrisons. They're always the same price, the price at each station changes on the same day and even when the price comes down (which doesn't happen very often!) the prices still change on the same day. I'm firmly in the belief that the owners of the Shell stations (which may be one and the same, I'm not sure) and the Morrisons manager are in regular contact and in cahoots with each other. When the new Sainsburys opened I was praying for a petrol station but there isn't one. The annoying thing is, Shell and morrisons own this town, and there's little to nothing anyone can do about it other than drive elsewhere which many people won't do.
 
I used to believe that Supermarkets used fuel as a Loss Leader to encourage people to their shops to do all their shopping. Unfortunately I no longer believe this. If the price at the supermarkets is usually the same as at all the other non-supermarket fuel stations in the area, then either the supermarket isn't subsidising the fuel anywhere near as much as they used to, if at all, or the local stations were overpricing. I know that some stations may make little to no profit, possibly even a small loss and rely on sales in the shop to make this up, but to me that just means that the Supermarkets are now either making a profit from their fuel or are simply breaking even.

In my town we have two Shell stations and a morrisons. They're always the same price, the price at each station changes on the same day and even when the price comes down (which doesn't happen very often!) the prices still change on the same day. I'm firmly in the belief that the owners of the Shell stations (which may be one and the same, I'm not sure) and the Morrisons manager are in regular contact and in cahoots with each other. When the new Sainsburys opened I was praying for a petrol station but there isn't one. The annoying thing is, Shell and morrisons own this town, and there's little to nothing anyone can do about it other than drive elsewhere which many people won't do.

I think the Loss Leader comment applied when they were doing 5p a litre off petrol every other week.

Rarely see those vouchers any more for some reason.
 
[TW]Fox;18133474 said:
Do you genuinelly have no idea why he might be sighing at you? :D

Touché.

I couldn't care less.

Hasn't everyone had enough of sticking their oar in and getting burnt?

It wasn't to him, nothing about him, wasn't even here at the time but hey lets sigh at you anyway. Nothing like a good bandwaggon find to cue a 'humorous' post huh?

Does he think petrol provides profit? Is that the problem?

Surely the time to shut up about it would be around now?

;)
 
Firstly I don't consider myself mightier than anyone, secondly I said "in no particular order", thirdly if you can't understand that maybe I should sigh at you....

have a great day :)

Well I think you should keep your sighs to yourself before you get my boot.

You too sweatheart, you too.

:D

Missed your edit, no not paranoid. Perhaps a touch oversensative, not paranoid however.
 
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