Game Activation Uproar

Man this place is so funny sometimes,

No one knows yet but 5 people above have thrown the toys out the parm and are talking about canceling orders :confused:

Hell we know nothing but hey lets goto OCUK forums make it up as we go along and watch the reaction ;)
 
It's all hearsay. No doubt a handful or people kicking up a storm about nothing.

The source isn't realiable either (you've yet to provide one other than 'some guy on the 2k forums').

I say good on them. If it wriles up a few geeks who format their HDD every other day for the sake of protecting their months and months of effort/money that's gone in to Bioshock then so be it.
 
gizmoy2k said:
Steam is your friend,

Its time to ditch the dvds and packaging and release more games this way
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i sort of agree. they should still sell the retail boxes but use steam to tie the game into your account. that would be much better.

one downside is you can't sell the game on if you don't like it...... :(
 
Tried&Tested said:
I say good on them. If it wriles up a few geeks who format their HDD every other day for the sake of protecting their months and months of effort/money that's gone in to Bioshock then so be it.
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Exactly. People know what they're buying in to as well, it's not like they're being screwed.
 
Tried&Tested said:
If it wriles up a few geeks who format their HDD every other day for the sake of protecting their months and months of effort/money that's gone in to Bioshock then so be it.
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Everyone who wants to bypass that protection will be able to, with very little effort.

I ask again; How are 2K Games accomplishing anything other than inconveniencing legitimate customers?
 
marc2003 said:
one downside is you can't sell the game on if you don't like it...... :(
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With all the betas and demos out these days its getting harder to make that mistake, Plus the reviews that pop up everywhere. But yeah I suppose some people like collectors editions and stuff, for me they just gather dust
 
Zefan said:
Exactly. People know what they're buying in to as well, it's not like they're being screwed.
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not necessarily. not all gamers hang around forums/games news sites all day long. this needs to be made very clear either on the box, by sales staff or the websites where people buy from.....

and what about all the pre-orders? plenty of people ordered the game without knowing about this? (if true :p)
 
gizmoy2k said:
With all the betas and demos out these days its getting harder to make that mistake
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Sorry to cut your post short, but that's one of the most relevent posts in this thread in my humble opinion. More demos, more betas, and overall better quality games are things that will encourage people not to pirate games. Not putting dodgy limits on them that don't even affect pirates. :)
 
Ulfhedjinn said:
Everyone who wants to bypass that protection will be able to, with very little effort.

I ask again; How are 2K Games accomplishing anything other than inconveniencing legitimate customers?
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The majority of people won't be inconvinieced....most people don't need to activate a product more than once. It's only the minority (the people i refer to above) that are kicking up a stink cos they MIGHT not be able to install it everytime they format or aren't able to test it on the 610 operating systems they have installed on their system. ;)
 
Tried&Tested said:
The majority of people won't be inconvinieced....most people don't need to activate a product more than once. It's only the minority (the people i refer to above) that are kicking up a stink cos they MIGHT not be able to install it everytime they format or aren't able to test it on the 610 operating systems they have installed on their system. ;)
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How does that affect pirates? It seems to me that it only affects legitimate customers.

Or are you saying it's a worthy use of time and money to impliment measures that only affect customers?

Addition: Not forgetting basic consumer rights. If I buy something, I expect to be able to use it on as many of my own computers as I like and to install it or uninstall it as many times as I like as long as I don't have to illegally copy the game. I'm sorry, but they're just punishing people for being honest. :)
 
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It's the securom implementation that is likely to inconvenience customers moreso than any possible limits on activation. I feel like a criminal these days simply for wanting to patch all the games I own such that I never need to put the cd in each time I play...
 
marc2003 said:
one downside is you can't sell the game on if you don't like it...... :(
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Perhaps thats the real reason behind it ;)

Tried&Tested said:
The majority of people won't be inconvinieced....most people don't need to activate a product more than once. It's only the minority (the people i refer to above) that are kicking up a stink cos they MIGHT not be able to install it everytime they format or aren't able to test it on the 610 operating systems they have installed on their system. ;)
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You kind of just prooved his point :p, it is affecting legitimate customers but wont make any difference to illegal copies which in all likelyhood would be able to be installed as many times as they like
 
Chronictank said:
You kind of just prooved his point :p, it is affecting legitimate customers but wont make any difference to illegal copies which in all likelyhood would be able to be installed as many times as they like
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Exactly. A pirate, even your average Joe skint-flint and not "elite d00d hacker", will be able to install this game as many times as he likes on as many PCs as he likes and never even use the disc if he so chooses. Hell, he might not even have to buy the game in the first place if he's truly intent on bypassing it.

So how is this measure affecting anyone but the legitimate buyers? :D

It's sad really because I've resorted to cracking games I legally own in the past, because sometimes the copy protection is just so annoying (especially in cases such as SecuROM and Starforce.) Might as well have not bought the game in the first place, but I felt the developers did a good job and deserve the rewards regardless of such annoyances.
 
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Ulfhedjinn said:
How does that affect pirates? It seems to me that it only affects legitimate customers.

Or are you saying it's a worthy use of time and money to impliment measures that only affect customers?
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Who has it affected? a few people on the 2k forums? That's all i can see from the links the OP just gave. The 11-page thread is full of people 'stunned' by the news and cancelling their pre-orders. Some goik has apparently had the ONE AND ONLY email reply from the people handling the security..and who knows, maybe he typed that out. :eek: ;)

It's not our time and money that's been put it, and whatever measures they want to put in place to protect their property is fine with me. If it makes the pirate's job that little bit hard then great. If it causes a few people a few problems wanting to activate their game every other week...fine by me. The majority of people will install the game...activate it...and leave it on their system for months or even years.
 
Tried&Tested said:
Who has it affected? a few people on the 2k forums? That's all i can see from the links the OP just gave. The 11-page thread is full of people 'stunned' by the news and cancelling their pre-orders. Some goik has apparently had the ONE AND ONLY email reply from the people handling the security..and who knows, maybe he typed that out. :eek: ;)

It's not our time and money that's been put it, and whatever measures they want to put in place to protect their property is fine with me. If it makes the pirate's job that little bit hard then great. If it causes a few people a few problems wanting to activate their game every other week...fine by me. The majority of people will install the game...activate it...and leave it on their system for months or even years.
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You're yet to tell me how this measure discourages piracy and how you can justify a company putting so much time and money into such a measure that only punishes legitimate consumers.

Even if only 5 people out of 5 million copies sold have problems, that's still 5 more legitimate users who can't play the game than pirates who will be happily playing it and probably didn't even buy it in the first place.

Will I buy Bioshock? I loved the demo, so yes.

Will this copy protection affect me? Yes, so unfortunately I'll have to be forced into bypassing it.
 
Chronictank said:
Perhaps thats the real reason behind it ;)


You kind of just prooved his point :p, it is affecting legitimate customers but wont make any difference to illegal copies which in all likelyhood would be able to be installed as many times as they like
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I didnt just prove his point at all.

What exactly do you want them to do...put their game out there with no protection only to find within minutes iso files are popping up all over the net and thousands and thousands of sales are lost?!

You must be mental.

They SHOULD be making it as difficult and awkward for pirates to steal their work, so bloody what if that means we have to click a few buttons to activate the game.
 
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