Garden rebuild.

The devils in the details they say.

Frame up: 82 nano seconds
The rest to this stage: 37 years







I also did this little fence. Bought three packs of pickets. Without measuring I chose a gap I thought looked ok. It came exactly to the end of the rail and I had 4 left over so I could put two on each end. I've never been happier. :-)

 
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Good morning. I'm based in the UK. Could you define what a garden shed is please?

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Good morning! Of course, I'd be happy to help. A garden shed is a small, typically single-story structure that is commonly found in residential gardens or yards. It is designed to provide storage space for various gardening tools, equipment, and supplies, as well as other outdoor items like bicycles, lawnmowers, and patio furniture. Garden sheds can vary in size, design, and construction materials, but they generally have a simple and functional layout.

Garden sheds are often made from materials such as wood, metal, or plastic, and they usually have a roof to protect the contents from weather elements like rain and sun. They can also come with features like windows for natural light, shelves for organization, and doors for easy access. Some people also use garden sheds as workshops, hobby spaces, or places to relax. Overall, garden sheds are versatile structures that serve a practical purpose in residential outdoor spaces.

User
Thank you. once they go over a certain size do they stop being a shed and become something else? If so what is the size in square meters and what do they become?

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In many cases, when a structure exceeds a certain size and complexity, it may be considered more than just a garden shed and could be classified as something else, such as an outbuilding, workshop, or even a small cabin. However, the specific size threshold and terminology can vary depending on local regulations, zoning laws, and building codes in your area.

In the UK, for example, there might be guidelines set by local authorities that differentiate between sheds and outbuildings based on factors like size, purpose, and construction materials. As of my last update in September 2021, the distinction between a shed and an outbuilding often involves the following factors:

Size: If a structure exceeds a certain size, it might be considered an outbuilding rather than a simple shed. This size threshold can vary, but it's often around 15 to 30 square meters (approximately 161 to 323 square feet).

Purpose: If the structure is intended to be used as a living space, office, or workshop, it might be classified as an outbuilding rather than a shed. Sheds are generally meant for storage and basic utility purposes related to gardening and outdoor equipment.

Construction: If the structure is built with more permanent materials, has electricity or plumbing connections, or is insulated for year-round use, it might be considered an outbuilding.

It's important to note that these guidelines can change, and regulations might be different in various regions within the UK. If you're considering building a structure in your garden and you're concerned about its classification, it's recommended to check with your local planning department or relevant authorities to ensure that you are in compliance with the current regulations and requirements.
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Guess it's an outbuilding then.
 
Mysterae_ said:
That man-shed is excellent, good job. Is insulation next on the to do list?

How big is it and do you have an estimated cost to build so far? Before covid I had plans and the money to build a metal shed/garage but now the costs are insane, I wonder if your timber frame construction would be cheaper.
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I’ll try and tot up the prices later.

I’m gonna guess now and say more than 15. Less than 30.
 
Mysterae_ said:
That man-shed is excellent, good job. Is insulation next on the to do list?

How big is it and do you have an estimated cost to build so far? Before covid I had plans and the money to build a metal shed/garage but now the costs are insane, I wonder if your timber frame construction would be cheaper.
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Accurate, inc VAT, this is what it's cost me so far. Without the help i've had available then costs could be significantly more.

Inside still has to be done. I'm going to board the sides and ends of the celing for storage. I will insulate the walls and board them and insulate the roof behind the slates.....eventually. I still need to decide what i'm doing on the floor. Hardwearing carpet is one option. Another is the rubber workshop tiles. I need to build a bench, power and light and water installed. The drive outfront needs doing. Guttering and drains, small patio out the back by the window and a path down the side. A gate to the left with a lean to as well. I'm tired out just writing it. Ha

 
Got the tape measure out / looked at the drawings. From floor level to the peak of the roof she's 3.8m. Floor to celing height is a nice 2.4m. Internally we're at 7.8x5.08....So a "cramped” ~39sqm of usable space.
 
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Updating my other shed thread made me realise I haven't updated this since last year. Gonna be a big photo dump, apologies. We're not 100% finished yet, but it's getting close.

Bike plus Roof being done:





Cladding:




Bikes in shed:




Externally finished:




We have electric! I insulated the walls with loft insulation and then covered in 9mm OSB. I've painted 18mm OSB white and gone around the outside of the celing to create extra storage:




Building my workbench. .75m x 5m. 1M high, plus bikes:






I've bought a compressor that i'm going to store in the eves, boxed into a sound deadened (is that a word?) enclosure I'll run air down to both front and rear. A parts washer too. Oh and decided to fit some commercial hard wearing carpet:






I had some left over timber so built shelf:



Had to move my sim righ from my other shed so that's being rebuilt in here now:





That should do for now.

Next update will be a "finished and tidy" one

Cheers
 
From the prices listed above, off the top of my head…

OSB, insulation and misc timber - £750
Bench timber £150
Carpet - £750
Tools - £450

Other misc items like paint, new roller, hooks and fixings etc.

Close to but not beyond £25k I’d say.
 
sigma said:
That's not a man cave that's a full on lair!

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Johnny Two Sheds

aVdub said:
Loving the build and cheers for the update.

Not that it looks like you need it, but for bike storage and being able to hang and swing the bikes into the wall, I can point to these being worth their weight.

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Cheers, always looking at increasing storage. The garden furniture in there is killing the floor space right now.
 
The cushions are all stored in the end above the garage door. Soon enough we can get it all outside. The joists are 600mm gaps and it's all wider than that. I'd like to build a lean to off the side of the shed, maybe this year and that can be used next winter.
 
Some gardening updates...

I've potted some plants in the greenhouse a few weeks back.....they have started to grow!



Soon I'll be sorting out this small patio area, been neglected for a few years since the wall was built. Dig it out, sort some draining. Fill up and top with a nice stone.


The green house in the garden, I never rebuilt it properly after moving it. It's been 4 years now so i've been motivated to properly finish it. 6 panes of glass ordered for collection tomorrow. The window openers dropped off at my mates metal fab place for a refurb.




Patio Magic'd the patio and path this afternoon. Fingers crossed it works.






 
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