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GeForce GTX 590 Key Features Revealed

drunkenmaster said:
Seriously, why on earth have AMD made a card with plenty of space around the fan in the middle, yet, made the fan much smaller than the width of the card. Nvidia have a much larger hole in the shroud and have fitted a much bigger fan, it seems utterly utterly retarded to not have sourced a bigger radial fan if they absolutely had to go that way, as I'm sure a bigger radial fan could provide less noise for any given airflow, but radial fans are just rubbish, always.
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That I have to agree...while 6990 still doesn't compare to pair of 6950 flashed to 6970 in terms of value, performance wise it is quite decent for a single card. But looking at that small fins fan reference cooler, people can't help but to think "why on earth AMD is cutting corner on the cooler on a piece of hardware that cost over £500, especially knowing the card will run very hot?" :o At least use a proper fan for the reference cooler for pete sake!
 
Looking like 612Mhz core going by the gigabyte benchmarks, I guess it was inevitable really as Nvidia probably want to make the power draw figures look half decent, does not mean it won't clock like a beast though and that's the first thing I would do if I bought a 590.
 
Going by those GB benchmarks it's not looking good for the 590 unless it comes in under £600.

At £650-£700 and roughly equal performance to 6990 it would be a bit of a joke.
 
straxusii said:
Going by those GB benchmarks it's not looking good for the 590 unless it comes in under £600.

At £650-£700 and roughly equal performance to 6990 it would be a bit of a joke.
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Depends what the fan noise and temps of the 590 are like and how well it clocks, the 6990 looks to be a very cheap design, over sized with to smaller fan to get the job done decently. If the 590 is quiet and can clock for fun I would happily pay the extra to net 580 SLI performance and more depending on how far they clock.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Depends what the fan noise and temps of the 590 are like and how well it clocks, the 6990 looks to be a very cheap design, over sized with to smaller fan to get the job done decently. If the 590 is quiet and can clock for fun I would happily pay the extra to net 580 SLI performance and more depending on how far they clock.
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how well do you think its going to clock?
do you think it will rival 580 sli or better it....
 
Well all of the fremi range have clocked brilliantly so far, it's speculated that the cores used in the 590 will be the very best so there should be some headroom for some big overclocks. Obviously you can expect 580 SLI performance if you can hit stock 580 clocks.
 
Got a mate who was waiting especially for these, think he may be a little disappointed though. Especially, if, as already said, they are priced over the £600 mark. He really isnt a graphics card overclocker either; in fact, he hates the thought of overclocking his GPU.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Well all of the fremi range have clocked brilliantly so far, it's speculated that the cores used in the 590 will be the very best so there should be some headroom for some big overclocks. Obviously you can expect 580 SLI performance if you can hit stock 580 clocks.
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Surely the board won't be able to supply anywhere near enough juice to get to 580 speeds?

Going by those Nvidia benchmarks it would suggest that it will be very close. Companies always choose the most favourable games/res yet Nvidia aren't exactly dominating. Take the Crysis numbers- on Anandtech the 6990 beat the GTX580 by 68-69% yet with the settings Nvidia used the difference was only 28%. It also choose some very old games instead of newer games where AMD have an advantage- like BF:BC2, Stalker, AvP.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
Obviously you can expect 580 SLI performance if you can hit stock 580 clocks.
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I'm not sure that's true though. The 6990 doesn't beat 6970 XFire even at the same clocks, and there's a fair difference between the GTX590 clocks and the GTX580 clocks. Not to mention, with a (almost certainly) more constricted cooler, the GTX590 won't be able to clock as well as individual GTX580s. It's like the 6990 vs 6970 XFire all over again...
 
Owenb said:
Surely the board won't be able to supply anywhere near enough juice to get to 580 speeds?

Going by those Nvidia benchmarks it would suggest that it will be very close. Companies always choose the most favourable games/res yet Nvidia aren't exactly dominating. Take the Crysis numbers- on Anandtech the 6990 beat the GTX580 by 68-69% yet with the settings Nvidia used the difference was only 28%. It also choose some very old games instead of newer games where AMD have an advantage- like BF:BC2, Stalker, AvP.
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Actually PCISIG PCIe 16x ATX 1.0 is a 150w specification. I don't know how well the mainboards conform to that, but I would imagine they do. If that's correct then the 75w limit would only be for backwards compatibility (and these cards are designed to be, in principle. backwards compatible though you'd be mad to run a GTX590 on legacy PCI-E). This is probably why NVIDIA are going with very low clocks -- to meet the minimum specs so they dont get bad PR from tonnes of customers complaining that the card doesn't run on theirs or some such thing.


So I agree with RavenXXX. I bet these cards were designed to meet lowest common denominator type specs but are meant to be really opened up and given more power/clocks. It's an enthusiast card anyway. That's the market segment.


If they can indeed be clocked to match GTX 580 SLI speeds then paying £600 for what's effectively two GTX 580s without even requiring SLI on the mainboard is a very tasty option to the segment that is into that sort of thing.
 
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Marvin said:
I'm not sure that's true though. The 6990 doesn't beat 6970 XFire even at the same clocks, and there's a fair difference between the GTX590 clocks and the GTX580 clocks. Not to mention, with a (almost certainly) more constricted cooler, the GTX590 won't be able to clock as well as individual GTX580s. It's like the 6990 vs 6970 XFire all over again...
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Then again sometimes it's faster than 6970 in Crossfire.
 
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Wonder how long it will take board partners to release upgraded cooling solutions for the 590...

...Such as the Asus Direct CU or the KFA2 Anarchy with the Accelero Extreme cooler?

These should be interesting with regards to overclocking potential of the 590
 
with size on their side, if they price this card right it might actually be worthwhile for those looking at dual gpu's in a single card size. of course i cant imagine Nvidia getting the pricing just right, its bound to be too expensive, we will find out tomorrow.
 
Nice packaging etc, but even in graphics cards I don't really care. An OEM Graphics card would be fine for me and shave a few £ off packaging in the process.
 
If that is indeed the performance at 607MHz (Generally matching or beating the 6990) then if it does infact overclock like the other GF110 cores (assuming the low core speed is for power management reasons) then it would leave an overclocked 6990 quite a way behind...
 
Rroff said:
If that is indeed the performance at 607MHz (Generally matching or beating the 6990) then if it does infact overclock like the other GF110 cores (assuming the low core speed is for power management reasons) then it would leave an overclocked 6990 quite a way behind...
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This was already a given though, based on a 6970 barely matching a 570. This is two weakened 580 cores.
 
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