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Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

ubersonic said:
Actually its been pretty even on both sides (depends if you consider the guy who tried to back you up by bringing Pentium MMX pricing into it without realising it backed up Marines point lol) but as no way to really answer the issue as its so subjective I can see why its so divided, guess we'll just have to agree to disagree ^^
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It's not an agree to disagree situation. Inflation affects prices. To not take it and currency exchange rates sufficiently means you're missing a large part of the equation. As in my earlier example a £400 card from 10 years ago is roughly £550 in today's money. And that's without exchange rate differences. So it looks to me as if savings in manufacturing are being passed on and the price gouging which is commonly referred to is exaggerated slightly. Really the retailers are the worst for it ;).
 
New post on semi-accurate which backs up the fudzilla statements and provides more detail on the 7 series line up.

Luckily there is also a “new” Geforce 770 based on the same GK104 die as the current 680 but in GK104-425 guise. This one is promised for the middle of May, so slightly before Computex with ~25% higher performance than the current GeForce GTX680 and around the same price. The ASIC is once again physically the same as the current GK104/GTX680 just with slightly higher clocks and possibly a few different fuses blown. This is a new bin, not at new ASIC.
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Source: http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/29/nvidia-cancels-gk11x-line-rebrands-the-current-chips-as-new/
 
ubersonic said:
Interesting, wonder what AMD's reaction to this will be if their not releasing any new single GPU cards this year? drop prices of the HD7970? ramp up the HD8000 launch?
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I don't think they have plans to release this year and to be fair to AMD, they are pooling all their efforts into console launches (my guess anyways).

It makes sense to focus on that department in GPU's and let the discrete GFX take a back seat.
 
We also need to remember that the 7970's got a whole lot faster with the driver updates this year so perhaps we need to think of this as a move by nvidia to remain competitive rather than the other way round....
 
Excuse the stupid question, but, as it says the GTX780 uses a scaled down titan design and the GTX770 uses a beefed up GTX680 design, does this mean reference boards may work with water blocks for reference Titan/680 cards? or will the be totally new board layouts?
 
ubersonic said:
Excuse the stupid question, but, as it says the GTX780 uses a scaled down titan design and the GTX770 uses a beefed up GTX680 design, does this mean reference boards may work with water blocks for reference Titan/680 cards? or will the be totally new board layouts?
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I can't see 6 series waterblocks working with the 7 series. It will be a completely different board layout sadly.
 
1kiwi said:
New post on semi-accurate which backs up the fudzilla statements and provides more detail on the 7 series line up.



Source: http://semiaccurate.com/2013/04/29/nvidia-cancels-gk11x-line-rebrands-the-current-chips-as-new/
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I don't think its quite as bad as SA makes out - aside from the prices likely being steep for what they are - not much point nVidia putting a lot of effort into a new 28nm core when the effort would be better spent on maxwell - 20nm isn't _that_ far away.
 
CAT-THE-FIFTH said:
It might explain why Nvidia clamped down on voltage increases with the GTX600 series.
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I think it was a pure profitability thing. I chucked some serious volts through my 680's with the ArtMoney hack and they absolutely flew. If I was braver, I would have kept 1.45V running through for gaming and running a 1400Mhz clock and I can see those clocks that I had matching the 780 (fps wise) if the rumours are true.

At the time, I believed it to be on saving RMA's and keeping max profits (no voltage tweaking = less returns from over volting) but not so sure now.

All speculation.
 
I agree with the person in above me in the costing range of the next generation cards.

I cannot afford to be looking at a GFX card upgrade of £900 a pop. Yes these 7990/GTX690/Titan cards are currently for enthusiasts but I still feel that, if these units have sold well they could start to become a mainstream upgrade for the PC gamer.

Maybe its just this moment in time with the next generation consoles making an appearance that the 5/6 and probably soon to be 8GB cards are coming onto the market. But please, not each with a £900+ price tag!

Games are still quite demanding and with 120HZ monitors now also becoming mainstream (and in my opinion also make an amazing experience) gamers are going to want to be hitting the 120fps mark through all scenes. It's not necessary, but it is becoming the norm.

I run BF3 on a GTX 680, many settings on low to make sure I'm well above that 120FPS threshold.

Just my pointless 2 cents.
 
sh33pst3r said:
I agree with the person in above me in the costing range of the next generation cards.
I cannot afford to be looking at a GFX card upgrade of £900 a pop.
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these are all niche, halo, early adopter type cards
you can get the same performance by using 2 lower end cards rather than trying to cram 2 GPU's on to one card like that

GTX 780 is rumoured to be around $599, so you are looking at £500ish prices here (a 4GB 680 is currently $540 in the US, and around £440 here)
a 770 is going to be basically a 680 4GB for a bit less money, so say £350

so don't worry, the next gen of cards are not going to be £900 for "normal" gamer type cards :)
 
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