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Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

IvanDobskey said:
I mean no new cards with comparable performance being released at the same time :rolleyes:
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Are you aware of some insider info that we're not all aware of?

So you're saying AMD has a lack of competition compared to unreleased nVidia cards, and you think that actually makes sense?

Lawdy lawd.

Gregster said:
I didn't realise there was a crown for that. Also whilst AMD do have a good selection of cards, it is no good resting on your laurels, computer tech moves fast and AMD need to stay in the race.

Price per performance isn't for everyone and some just want brute performance.
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And nVidia don't have the absolute performance crown.
 
Gregster said:
I didn't realise there was a crown for that. Also whilst AMD do have a good selection of cards, it is no good resting on your laurels, computer tech moves fast and AMD need to stay in the race.

Price per performance isn't for everyone and some just want brute performance.
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In that case... 7990 is there ;)

Tbh im sitting waiting for next gen.. its been far to long.
 
I've never understood why people speculate about the UK prices as if either NVIDIA or AMD set a British RRP on their products.

The prices depends solely on the American bulk prices + suppliers' discount/mark up + exchange rates at the time of allocating stock + retailer's mark up + VAT.

The quickest formula would be to take the American RRP, multiply by the current average $ to £ exchange rate, add 20% VAT on top and round up to the nearest tenner. Everything else is the retailer's extra mark up, also known as the "Rip-off Britain".
 
Suarez7 said:
If cloud ever became the mainstream way to play games I think I'd probably quit playing. I can never see it working, not in the near future anyway for fast paced FPS games. Input lag can already be an issue without having to stream the game.
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Cloud gaming is just awful, I don't know why anyone thinks it's a good idea. You just need to look at Onlive.

bru said:
So if battlefield 6/7 finally gets here in a fashion that allows it to play just as well as battlefield 3 does at the moment, yet while streaming the content you wouldn't be interested. :rolleyes:

I do agree that at the moment the technology isn't there, but give it a few more years and who knows how good this sort of thing will be.
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Streaming will never compete playing locally, the bandwidth requirements for local 1080P@60Hz is just too much for an internet connection, so they have to add compression, and it's very noticeable.

Then there's the latency too, it's just not feasible and I don't know why AMD and nVidia are wasting their time with it.

The only "streaming" gaming I think wouldn't be *that* had would be local streaming, like the way they're doing with Project Shield, which is a very interesting project even if I think nVidia are putting too many resources in to it.
 
Sliver said:
I think it's these kind of posts that incites Gregster to ask you to 'grow up'. I'm here for info, much of it being provided by Gregster, and it's frankly dull sifting through comments made by you and others that offer little or nothing.
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He said grow up before that post, but realistically is that not what he's doing? You know "you're not doing as you're told, I'm telling"? It pretty much is.

As for him providing info, to be blunt he most of his info comes from copy and paste jobs.

Mr Krugga said:
I've never understood why people speculate about the UK prices as if either NVIDIA or AMD set a British RRP on their products.

The prices depends solely on the American bulk prices + suppliers' discount/mark up + exchange rates at the time of allocating stock + retailer's mark up + VAT.

The quickest formula would be to take the American RRP, multiply by the current average $ to £ exchange rate, add 20% VAT on top and round up to the nearest tenner. Everything else is the retailer's extra mark up, also known as the "Rip-off Britain".
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Myself and others have said it plenty of times, people just don't listen.

It's one of those situations where some people want to talk loads about topics they don't understand really.

Like Marine-RX179 last week where he was refusing to take in to account the impact that inflation and exchange rates will have on computer hardware prices.

This "rip off Britain" thing very rarely happens though, especially with computer hardware, at least in the typical sense.

The actual "rip off Britain" part comes from the VAT rather than a typical markup, but it's because people tend to pretend that there isn't any sales tax at all in the US, which makes the price gap look larger than it is.

For the most part, you'll find that nearly all hardware is priced according to the US RRP converted to GBP at the current rate with VAT on top, in fact a lot of the time it ends up working out a bit less than the US RRP pre-tax.
 
spoffle said:
Cloud gaming is just awful, I don't know why anyone thinks it's a good idea. You just need to look at Onlive.



Streaming will never compete playing locally, the bandwidth requirements for local 1080P@60Hz is just too much for an internet connection, so they have to add compression, and it's very noticeable.

Then there's the latency too, it's just not feasible and I don't know why AMD and nVidia are wasting their time with it.
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Never is a very long time, people use to say that you couldn't game online at all because the modems were just too slow 28.8k etc now look at us. so who know what will happen in a few more years.
 
bru said:
Never is a very long time, people use to say that you couldn't game online at all because the modems were just too slow 28.8k etc now look at us. so who know what will happen in a few more years.
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Not because the internet couldn't cope with it at some point, just, whilst the internet advances, so will everything else so the baseline in what's possible will raise too.

Chips will be smaller, you'll be getting much more performance using less watts for much less money, so it really makes cloud gaming redundant.

I do see the appeal of streamed games, as I said earlier, and I'm looking forward to streaming PS4 games locally to my PS Vita, but that's a very different thing than when it comes to streaming over the internet.
 
bru said:
Never is a very long time, people use to say that you couldn't game online at all because the modems were just too slow 28.8k etc now look at us. so who know what will happen in a few more years.
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Gaming online is very different to streaming a game online, I never heard anyone say 28.8k was too slow at the time, me and many others played Quake and what not with those connections.
 
Suarez7 said:
Gaming online is very different to streaming a game online, I never heard anyone say 28.8k was too slow at the time, me and many others played Quake and what not with those connections.
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It's also ignoring the plus aspects of PC games, ie, mods and community content.
 
I used to do ok at quake on 34.4 or whatever it was the first modem I had managed but it was never "fine" - tho I was a bit spoilt as my first online experience and most of my first year of quake online was via an academic connection directly linked to janet. Pretty easy to run circles around people on 150-300+ms pings when your pinging sub 10ms.
 
Rroff said:
I used to do ok at quake on 34.4 or whatever it was the first modem I had managed but it was never "fine" - tho I was a bit spoilt as my first online experience and most of my first year of quake online was via an academic connection directly linked to janet. Pretty easy to run circles around people on 150-300+ms pings when your pinging sub 10ms.
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You obviously never played me then, i was hbp king, ok not 'the' king but i loved beating those isdn peeps. i nearly changed my quake name to BOT as i was called it enough times.
 
I was heartbroken at not being able to play XWA on The Zone. I didn't figure it out until later that I was playing with Americans and XWA was a P2P game...

Uhhh anyway, roll on Maxwell! :D
 
spoffle said:
Like Marine-RX179 last week where he was refusing to take in to account the impact that inflation and exchange rates will have on computer hardware prices.

This "rip off Britain" thing very rarely happens though, especially with computer hardware, at least in the typical sense.
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Em no. What I said ALL ALONG was "inflation/exchange rate's impact on prices is not as significant, if comparing to the price dictation/increase set by the companies".

I even used the launch price (RRP) of 5870 $399 vs 7970 $549 (AMD only slash down to $499 until later) as example, which leave the exchange rate out of the equation, and there's no way inflation is responsible for majority of that $150 price increase, over just 2 years period. Prices of graphic cards increase hugely over such short period of time is not mainly because of inflation, but companies making it so.
 
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Does it seem that Nvidia card stocks have lowered at all in preparation of new cards soonish? As i see that allot of 680 and 670's seem to have less than 10 in stock now.
 
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