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Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

I look forward to cheap GTX 670/680 4GB cards... then I'll replace my eVGA GTX 660 FTW 2GB in the ITX gamer with one of those.
Could be my GTX 670's should be replaced with 2x GTX 780's if the performance will be around the same. If not I'll wait till Maxwell in 2014.
 
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Rossi~ said:
I would like to see what this does to the prices of the GTX 670 and 680..
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Very little, the 780 will just end up more expensive than what the 680 currently is with it not shifting much.

I think the 8970 will be along not to much later, maybe 3 months, once AMD know what they are dealing with they will release a more competitive product IMO.

As for the 20nm Nvidia and AMD GPU's, i wouldn't expect them for at least a year later.
 
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humbug said:
Very little, the 780 will just end up more expensive than what the 680 currently is with it not shifting much.

I think the 8970 will be along not to much later, maybe 3 months, once AMD know what they are dealing with they will release a more competitive product IMO.

As for the 20nm Nvidia and AMD GPU's, i wouldn't expect them for at least a year later.
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When the Fermi refresh came out (580gtx) the 480's dropped to less than £200....
 
Rusty0611 said:
You're missing the point of what the market is willing to pay though.
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Looking at OcUK and various other vendor stock levels of Titans, evidently I'm not missing that much. If it was released as Titan LE, not much slower than Titan, then you'd expect to pay around £600 wouldn't you? So because its branded GTX780, Nvidia will sell it at £400?

I'm in no position to make any assertions, so maybe you're right. Perhaps it'll have a cut price cooler / shroud, or other corners cut. And it'll be released at ~£450. We'll see.
 
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Jono8 said:
When the Fermi refresh came out (580gtx) the 480's dropped to less than £200....
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The 480 was a tarnished GPU, it was well know to run ridiculously hot and draw a lot of power.

When the 680 came out the 580 remained at pretty much the same £300+ price it had been before, and remained so for a long while after, only dropping by small amounts at a time until they were all gone.

Nvidia now know they can easily sell a GPU thats not a great deal faster than its competition for £1'000, £600+ more.

The 780 will be inbetween the 680 and Titan, perhaps slightly faster than the 7970 GE, it will be priced, (not quite) accordingly in their pricing structure, but not far off.

They know they can.
 
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AMD is going from GCN to GCN 2.0 while Nvidia is going from Kepler to....a larger Kepler?
So the real 7970 is a 7970 GHz Edition and the real 680 is a 780 :confused:

It looks like AMD can aim for Titan while Nvidia have to try and avoid it, snookered themselves :p
 
The jumps we see in the future will be smaller than jumps seen in the past. They'll be much more like bunny-hops.

AMD & NVidia are cutting costs and moving the business priorities away from PC gaming. It is much cheaper to "tweak" an existing product or wait for a high-yield smaller process to mature than it is to build from scratch or be the first to push a new process.

Tweaked process for the 700 series, followed by a die shrink and tweaked process for the 800's next year. I cannot see the 700's being anything special, with probably much less of a boost than NVidia got from the 400 to 500 series bunny-jump. The difference this time is that NVidia have no cores to unlock on their top GTX680 part.
 
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MichaelM said:
Friendly snip.

It looks like AMD can aim for Titan while Nvidia have to try and avoid it, snookered themselves :p
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Yup, IMO that is what they are aiming for, scope and headshot :D

Good of Nvidia to put a target out there....

It may not turn out that way, but i did wonder at the time if with Titan Nvidia had shot themselves in the foot for the long run, Nvidia have to avoid it if they are going to continue to market as "something very special for a thousand pounds" while giving AMD a very juicy and obtainable target.
 
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Wucked said:
Looking at OcUK and various other vendor stock levels of Titans, evidently I'm not missing that much. If it was released as Titan LE, not much slower than Titan, then you'd expect to pay around £600 wouldn't you? So because its branded GTX780, Nvidia will sell it at £400?

I'm in no position to make any assertions, so maybe you're right. Perhaps it'll have a cut price cooler / shroud, or other corners cut. And it'll be released at ~£450. We'll see.
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I was just replying to you implying that the Titan and/or Titan LE will affect the prices of the normal Geforce series cards. I can't see it personally. I think the release prices of this generation are pretty much the top end of what the market is willing to pay en masse. Of course they'll sell for higher but would they shift enough of them? Especially as the pricing often scales down from the top end part. Not for me but time will tell.
 
Martini1991 said:
Aren't Nvidia's graphics performance per watt?
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Yes. Maxwell is almost certainly going to be a big performance jump from Kepler - the compute and general shader capabilities are going to be very different and much more efficent in terms of how much space they take up for the performance they give - giving the possibilities for either much more performance or much better thermal/electrical characteristics.
 
Sliver said:
I'm not sure I agree with you here. From the little we know about Maxwell it seems evident that it's a big jump from Kepler.
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No actually 555BUK is right. Per gen improvement we will NEVER see jump like from the GTX7000 to the GTX8000 series, or GTX200 series to GTX400 series again. I wanted to mentioned HD4000 series to HD5000 series as well, but then again the 4850/4870 card were launched at a different price range to the 5850/5870 (but the 5870 could pretty much match the 4870x2 without the high power consumption/heat and crossfire issue for £300 ish which was pretty impressive).

Gone are those glory days of graphic card's decent performance performance increase at reasonable prices...now it's just pretty much just about both companies milking us for the same money (more actually) while giving us marginal increase over previous gen. If we see the same improvement as back in the day, be prepared both companies will charge us for an arm and leg for it (as Titan have shown).
 
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Rusty0611 said:
I was just replying to you implying that the Titan and/or Titan LE will affect the prices of the normal Geforce series cards. I can't see it personally. I think the release prices of this generation are pretty much the top end of what the market is willing to pay en masse. Of course they'll sell for higher but would they shift enough of them? Especially as the pricing often scales down from the top end part. Not for me but time will tell.
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I hope you're right. It would be nice to find my cynicism about the whole thing is completely unfounded. :)
 
Marine-RX179 said:
Launch price of 6970 at £300 to 7970 at £450...yea, inflation is a botch and company not trying to milk the customers at all :rolleyes: If they had the 12.11 driver's performance right at launch rather than 9 months later, at least it would have justify it a bit...
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And available at 300 pound when the exchange rate is worse 'n all.
Well, now they're like 320, but yolo.
 
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