Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

[illuz]

prices are becoming silly for new tech imo

+1

 

[andybird123]

Well that's not true, it wasn't £200 more, it was more expensive but not that much.

Let's talk about right now for a minute, the 7970 gives better performance than the GTX 680 but costs less and comes with games. AMD give better value at every tier, that's today's market.

I agree about them both being equally guilty of trying to fleece the consumer, Nvidia is just way more guilty of it. I don't understand brand loyalism to company's that want your money. Price VS performance dictates what I buy. Right now Nvidia's pricing is bonkers no other way to describe it.


I see an opportunity for them to redeem themselves a lil with the 7XX series rebrand prices. If they deside to further fleece us I'll go to AMD, based on value VS price not any brand loyalty.. People attach emotions to products it's all a bit weird..

580's were going for around £300 when the 7970 came out, which released at prices from £420 for preorder or over £500 for in stock

"value" is an entirely subjective concept so I'm not going to get dragged in to discussing the relative merits of either proposition in yet another thread

Nvidia's pricing is only bonkers if you don't consider sales figures - AMD have had to slash pricing to get sales, Nvidia haven't, the only people to blame for Nvidia's pricing are the hoards of people buying nvidia cards at the current pricing

 

[OCPete]

Do we know if the 780 will have 3GB or 5GB yet?

Anyone leaked any PCB pics?

 

[ICDP]

580's were going for around £300 when the 7970 came out, which released at prices from £420 for preorder or over £500 for in stock

I didn't discuss any of your other points so I'm not going to respond to them now either - "value" is an entirely subjective concept so I'm not going to get dragged in to discussing the relative merits of either proposition in yet another thread

Reference GTX580 was still ~£360-£380 brand new when HD 7970 was released and it was possible to find HD 7970s at MSRP on release day. I bought one for £420 including delivery the day they released and this was actually significantly cheaper than a 3GB GTX580 or a 1.5GB GTX580 OC edition.

Here are the GTX580 prices a few days before HD 7970 release day here in the UK.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120108...uctlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1812

Same cards a few days after 7970 was released. The cheapest is still £350.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120117...uctlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1812

Even one month after HD 7970 was released the GTX580 was still £350 for the cheapest reference models. Reference 7970 was around 20% more expensive than a reference GTX580 but the 7970 was ~25%-30% faster with twice the VRAM. Not to mention the much better OC potential and it consumed less power.

7970 was overpriced by around £30-50 IMHO, but it wasn't the rip off you are making it out to be compared to GTX580.

 

[illuz]

If this is true; 3GB 384bit bus width.

 

[andybird123]

Reference GTX580 was still ~£360-£380 brand new when HD 7970 was released and it was possible to find HD 7970s at MSRP on release day. I bought one for £420 including delivery the day they released and this was actually significantly cheaper than a 3GB GTX580 or a 1.5GB GTX580 OC edition.

In the context of the GTX580 prices here in the UK the 7970 was not overpriced considering it was ~25%-30% faster and had twice the VRAM.

Here is the GTX580 prices on HD 7970 release day here in the UK.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120108...uctlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1812

and I bought a factory OC 580 for £320 about 5 months before the 7970 was released, I also bought a 3GB for £360 a couple of weeks after (and sold it for the same price when the 670 came out, so I actually ended up with money back in my pocket by upgrading, but that is by the by)

looking at the hexus list, in stock pricing on launch day was over £500

if anything, you posts just go to prove that retail pricing is at the behest of the retailers, not the manufacturers

 

[Boomstick777]

You really think a card which is SO close to the Titan, will launch at £400?

According to Mr Krugga the GTX 780 will fall in line with previous GTX X80 pricing meaning it should be in the £400+ price bracket.

We will have to wait and see, if it is in the £400 bracket it's good value at it's rumored spec. If it comes in much higher then waiting may be better option.

Just found out my 660's can MAX Metro Last Light @ 1440P, not sure I even need to upgrade yet tbh

 

[tommybhoy]

Reference GTX580 was still ~£360-£380 brand new when HD 7970 was released and it was possible to find HD 7970s at MSRP on release day. I bought one for £420 including delivery the day they released and this was actually significantly cheaper than a 3GB GTX580 or a 1.5GB GTX580 OC edition.

Here are the GTX580 prices a few days before HD 7970 release day here in the UK.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120108...uctlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1812

Same cards a few days after 7970 was released. The cheapest is still £350.
http://web.archive.org/web/20120117...uctlist.php?groupid=701&catid=1914&subid=1812

Even one month after HD 7970 was released the GTX580 was still £350 for the cheapest reference models. Reference 7970 was around 20% more expensive than a reference GTX580 but the 7970 was ~25%-30% faster with twice the VRAM. Not to mention the much better OC potential and it consumed less power.

7970 was overpriced by around £30-50 IMHO, but it wasn't the rip off you are making it out to be compared to GTX580.

It's always the same, over inflated memories of 79 series release day pricing:

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/33453-amd-radeon-hd-7970-launch-day-pricing-availability/

http://hexus.net/tech/news/graphics/34645-amd-radeon-hd-7950-launch-day-pricing-availability/

7950 3Gb faster, cheaper and more overclockable than a 3Gb 580.

 

[ICDP]

and I bought a factory OC 580 for £320 about 5 months before the 7970 was released, I also bought a 3GB for £360 a couple of weeks after (and sold it for the same price when the 670 came out, so I actually ended up with money back in my pocket by upgrading, but that is by the by)

looking at the hexus list, in stock pricing on launch day was over £500

if anything, you posts just go to prove that retail pricing is at the behest of the retailers, not the manufacturers

In stock pricing for HD 7970 was not £500 on release day, I should know I spent all morning deliberating if I should purchase one. In the event I went home and bought one that evening for £420 including delivery.

Second hand GTX580 for £320, wow you were ripped off

I have linked to Overclockers prices and other etailers show similar prices for brand new GTX580s. Even one month after HD 7970 was released GT580s were £350+.

 

[MOOGLEYS]

I paid £399 for my 7970 on launch day. Pretty sure it came from OCUK but cannot remember.

 

[illuz]

According to Mr Krugga the GTX 780 will fall in line with previous GTX X80 pricing meaning it should be in the £400+ price bracket.

We will have to wait and see, if it is in the £400 bracket it's good value at it's rumored spec. If it comes in much higher then waiting may be better option.

Just found out my 660's can MAX Metro Last Light @ 1440P, not sure I even need to upgrade yet tbh

With Titan being at 1K, I can tell you now it most definitely will not come in at £400... They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

770 £400, maybe.

 

[Jay85]

With Titan being at 1K, I can tell you now it most definitely will not come in at £400... They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

770 £400, maybe.

But it's not at 1k though! Okay maybe close but it's not touching 1k!

But I agree on the part that they would be shooting themselves in the foot if they sold the 780 at £400 since they've already priced the titan so high.

 

[MoRT489]

you just have to wait n sit it out until prices drop,your current cards can handle any game on the market right now so why the rush?

prices will soon drop if not many folks buy them,prices are becoming silly for new tech imo

Problem is people will buy them regardless of the price, very few are willing to boycott for lower prices as they just must have the latest and greatest. I've been keenly watching 670/680 prices for the last 6 months hoping for a decent drop before the next gen was announced, but if anything UK prices have gone up in that time.

I can accept paying a premium for Nvidia cards over AMD as I only ever had problems with AMD drivers, but the current prices are crazy. And if the prices for the 780/770 suggested in this thread are true it's way too much of a premium to pay. I have the money but I just don't see that the performance justifies the price when I am only a casual gamer ~4hrs per week.

Titan may have been a flagship model but I'm sure Nvidia's tactic is to use it to justify whacking a higher price tag on future generations, which, when the new cards are just a rehash, is an obscene abuse of dominant position in the market which only harms competition and the consumer. - Somoeone call the EU Commission

 

[illuz]

So I can find them about 820ish... No way in hell they're going to price the card below it at £400. MAYBE £600 release, £650 afterwards. Nvidia are laughing right now, bet the CEO has a nice fat paycheck at the end of this year.

 

[wazza300]

Problem is people will buy them, very few are willing to boycott for lower prices as they just must have the latest and greatest. I've ben keenly watching 670/680 prices for the last 6 months hoping for a decent drop before the next gen was announced, but if anything UK prices have gone up in that time.

I agree,there are occasional deals though if you can catch them,i had a cracking deal on my 7970

plus you can always go down the used/second hand route

 

[Kaapstad]

Geforce GTX 780 to sell from 500 to 600 euro


Some 20 percent more than 680


Nvidia is getting ready to release the Geforce GTX 780, 770 and 760 TI and slowly replace the upper part of Geforce 600 line.



Traditionally new cards tend to end up more expensive and in this case GTX 780 will be about 20 percent more expensive than its predecessor, the GTX 680. We expect to see them shipping in European retail for about 500 to 600 euro, depending on the SKU. This is the end user price that includes Value Added Tax and this is just a range for big European countries. It some smaller markets the cards could end up even more expensive. The GTX 770 is also expected to cost about 360 euro for stock non-overclocked cards, while others might end up more expensive as one can expect. The GTX 760 should sell for about 200 euro once it launches and naturally since the price is rather close to the GTX 660 we don’t see them coexisting for very long.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31373-geforce-gtx-780-to-sell-from-500-to-600-euro

Overclocked GTX 780 and 770 in the works


Slightly more expensive


We have confirmed that there will be overclocked Geforce GTX 770 and 780 cards and that manufactures are preparing them as we speak.



Since in reality this is just a rebrand of GTX 770 and 680 cards, it was not hard to imagine that this would come about. The 780 is based on Titan GK110 and is a new card, not simply a renamed 600-series part. One can look at it as a slightly de-clocked and more reasonably priced Titan under GTX 780 brand.

The overclocked cards will come shortly after the plain retail version with Nvidia cooler ships out in order to replace the GTX 680 and 670. The GTX 780 ends up significantly faster than the 680 due to its new GK110 chip, while the 770 should end up five to seven percent more expensive than current GTX 680. We expect to see first of these cards in the second half of June, but we expect to see announcements around Computex, in case Nvidia gives them a PR blessing.

Overclocked cards will gain a nice performance boost, but nothing spectacular as you might imagine as even the 780 card based on the Titan GK110 core ends up just slightly faster than 680. At this time we don’t have an exact number. We are hearing that custom coolers and custom frequencies should appear on these cards but we don’t have any specifics yet.

http://www.fudzilla.com/home/item/31374-overclocked-gtx-760-and-770-in-the-works

 

[straxusii]

770 : £350-£400
780 : £500-£600

 

[Mr Krugga]

You really think a card which is SO close to the Titan, will launch at £400?

It won't be called a Titan LE and most people are clueless about technology. To them the difference between a GTX 770 and GTX 780 will be either the price or some benchmarks they see on the Internet. Or even more likely, opinion of other clueless sheep.

In all honesty, how much of an improvement is Titan over GTX 680 at 1920x1080/1200? Now take that figure, subtract 10%, you've got yourself a Titan LE. Now take 10-15% more, your "new" GPU is called GTX 770 and is based on the Kepler. 10% less of that, you're in the GTX 680's ballpark.

The inflated price of the Titan is ridiculous, people who have bought into it have either close to an unlimited budget (which is cool, by any means) or not a lot of common sense.

 

[Boomstick777]

With Titan being at 1K, I can tell you now it most definitely will not come in at £400... They'd be shooting themselves in the foot.

770 £400, maybe.

This is why I was suggesting the GTX 780 may be expensive, but according to Mr Krugga it will fall in line with previous gens Circa £400. Which would be awesome if true.

Just gotta wait it out..

The inflated price of the Titan is ridiculous, people who have bought into it have either close to an unlimited budget (which is cool, by any means) or not a lot of common sense.

Agreed, I bought into the hype at launch and picked one up, but soon regretted it and luckily sold it and recouped the money. It was fun to play with but to expensive to keep hold of.

If you're a baller it's not a problem. For everyone else it's to much to spend on something just to play games..

 

[Gregster]

I paid £399 for my 7970 on launch day. Pretty sure it came from OCUK but cannot remember.

The cheapest 7970 at OcUK on launch day was £459.99 iirc. All the AMD fans will blame Titan as the reason for these massive prices that are now set in stone (which they will be) but realistically, the 7970 didn't help matters.

Not long for the launch now and prices will be set. AMD to follow with massive 9 series prices