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Geforce GTX 780, 770 coming in May

clever people buy amd:D;)

I did, then had to sidegrade to Nvidia after waiting months in the hope AMD would sort the drivers lol :( (I loved the HD7950 Boost, its just a shame that AMDs drivers don't compete with Nvidias as well as the actual cards do).


The inflated price of the Titan is ridiculous, people who have bought into it have either close to an unlimited budget (which is cool, by any means) or not a lot of common sense.

Its not really inflated though, people don't seem to get that Titan isn't an expensive super powerful gaming card, its a cheap cut down compute card thats marketed to gamers as the daddy, if it wasn't priced how it is then multiple Titans would be better bang for buck than the actual compute cards.

Im not suggesting its worth it, just that the price is actually good value for people who happen to want to blow cash on a cut down compute card instead of just going the SLI route.
 
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This is why I was suggesting the GTX 780 may be expensive, but according to Mr Krugga it will fall in line with previous gens Circa £400. Which would be awesome if true.

Like I said before, this is not anything set in stone. It's crucial to understand how UK pricing works with the graphics cards (and other computer related products).

We have Nvidia, the actual manufacturer of reference PCB and GPUs, who have their general costs of producing a batch of 1000 cards figured out (for at least a few months, because the costs change too) and they add their hefty mark up on top of that. Except it's nowhere near as large as some people might think. There is a lot of associated costs, some of which are not as easily apportioned, namely R&D and marketing. These will all have to be spread out, with the costs of parts and outsourcing manufacturing included (AFAIK, they still don't use their own plants for production), then the ready parts with that set batch price can be transferred onto Nvidia's vendors, who will or will not be to pay for the cards. The general MSRP will be agree on with the largest AIBs and that will include the predicted mark up for US retailers and any middlemen in between (think third party suppliers, logistics). AIB's role in this whole thing at launch will be to ensure the availability of the products in shops and providing support/warranty for them. They pretty much throw in some accessories, put the sticker on and box the whole thing up when it comes to reference designs.

When OCUK makes a deal with a vendor (such as MSI/Gigabyte/EVGA or maybe even a third party supplier), they agree on the price for a more or less specific number of cards, with the intention of purchasing more if the demand is high enough. At all times, customs and taxes come into play, with final price being affected by the VAT. One of the biggest things that will affect the UK pricing is something that's taught in basics economics - supply and demand. The American market is in a much more comfortable position when it comes to availability, hence why in case of short supply, the UK retailers pay their price and transfer them onto their customers. If Nvidia suddenly drops the price, retailers often receive rebates on future purchases or buyback offers.

That's at least as much as I understand it and my main drive behind making it absolutely clear that Nvidia (or AMD for that matter) doesn't have full effect on the UK prices.

The truth is that most profits come from mainstream/low-end cards (think laptops grade) and mobile devices (strong emphasis on this one). They need to win the enthusiast war only to stay relevant, the profits will roll on in the lower tiers of the business anyway.

Let the free market war begin!
 
Its not really inflated though, people don't seem to get that Titan isn't an expensive super powerful gaming card, its a cheap cut down compute card thats marketed to gamers as the daddy, if it wasn't priced how it is then multiple Titans would be better bang for buck than the actual compute cards.

Im not suggesting its worth it, just that the price is actually good value for people who happen to want to blow cash on a cut down compute card instead of just going the SLI route.

I totally agree, I was just having a dig at consumers who view Titan as something that Nvidia punished them with. It shouldn't be viewed as a gaming card in the first place. The launch pricing reflects that. That is also why I don't think it's an indicator of the inflationary nature of graphics cards, as some people here seem to be suggesting. I'm actually fairly surprised that the prices have stayed this low despite the inflation, but I guess the current rate of technology improvements in this sector is too slow to warranty any price hikes.

Something interesting I found today, here's an Anandtech article showing off price drops on AMD cards few months after launch. It shows that there is a market for an enthusiast card at $549, which leads me to believe that it might be indeed the launch price of the GTX 780, which would translate to £440. I suggested earlier that $599 (£470) is also possible, but it's become less likely considering that GTX 770 can't really be priced much lower than the top card and $449 (£360) is a bit excessive considering that one can get a GTX 680 for that much already. It's worth noting that the exchange rate remained fairly similar at the time of writing.
 
God damn it lift the NDA already, i want prices, release dates and i want to know if the 670's/680's will be going cheap.

360 euros at todays exchange rate is £306.25. I will be sorely tempted by a 770GTX if it is near £300....
 
The cheapest 7970 at OcUK on launch day was £459.99 iirc. All the AMD fans will blame Titan as the reason for these massive prices that are now set in stone (which they will be) but realistically, the 7970 didn't help matters.

Not long for the launch now and prices will be set. AMD to follow with massive 9 series prices :D

Maybe on OcUK they were that price but OcUK are not the cheapest etailer available. They are the best though but sometimes that isn't enough to make me pay the premium prices peace of mind from OcUK brings.

All AMD fans do not blame Titan for prices, some blame the fact that GTX580 was still £370 - £600 depending on model when a much faster card was released for a better price/perf ratio.

Others recognise that AMD and Nvidia are soulless faceless companies who's only motivation is profit. Anyone who thinks one has more blame than the other over GPU prices is an idiot. They are both as bad as each other and will charge as much as they can get away with.
 
God damn it lift the NDA already, i want prices, release dates and i want to know if the 670's/680's will be going cheap.

360 euros at todays exchange rate is £306.25. I will be sorely tempted by a 770GTX if it is near £300....

Well it's gonna be nearer to £400 than £300, so don't get your hopes up :p

Prolly over £400 tbh, no way are they gonna release it for cheaper than a 680.
 
Others recognise that AMD and Nvidia are soulless faceless companies who's only motivation is profit. Anyone who thinks one has more blame than the other over GPU prices is an idiot. They are both as bad as each other and will charge as much as they can get away with.

^^ This, people seem to attach emotion to Graphics Cards / CPU's etc and it effects there logic of what represents value..

At around £400 I think the 780 will be a decent upgrade for most people on older cards or midrange cards like me..
 
The cheapest 7970 at OcUK on launch day was £459.99 iirc. All the AMD fans will blame Titan as the reason for these massive prices that are now set in stone (which they will be) but realistically, the 7970 didn't help matters.

Not long for the launch now and prices will be set. AMD to follow with massive 9 series prices :D

Actually the cheapest was £419.99 inc but yes it was still expensive.
 
AMD give better value at every tier, that's today's market.

I don't understand brand loyalism to company's that want your money

If Company X always gives better value for money than Company Y then people will stick with Company X. If others think that spending more means getting the best then they will stick to Company Y.

Therefore there are two sides that will stick to their brand because they agree with their companys policies which means that brand loyalty is generated.
 
GeForce GTX 780 to cost £425-£510, is based on Nvidia Titan.

http://www.mcvuk.com/news/read/geforce-gtx-780-to-cost-425-510-is-based-on-nvidia-titan/0115514

Here's hoping..

"The GTX 770, meanwhile, is said to be priced at around £305 for the stock card and is simply a slightly upgraded version of the current GTX 670. The same is true of the GTX 660, which will likely costs as little as £170."

Considering that article thinks the GTX770 is based on the GTX670 (its based on the GTX680), and that the GTX760Ti is called the GTX660, I would take it all with a pinch of salt. Especially as UK prices are impossible to know until US prices are confirmed.
 
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