Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Yup, can easily skip a generation with a 1080/Ti with a Gsync screen.

RTX is what will make the current series of cards look old skool. That is where all the reviews will show the Pascal and AMD cards tanking in - any effect which uses RTX functionality like that improved form of AA.

 

[JediFragger]

And as we all know, the 1st gen of any new graphics tech always turns out to perform like a bit of a dog further down the line. Another reason to skip it.

 

[TNA]

TBH,think about this way - how many games will use RTX before 2020?? Metro:Exodus?? Cyberpunk 2077 is more likely to be a 2020 title IMHO,and by then the next generation cards will be out.

By the time those games come out the 2070/80 will probably not be able to run them at desirable fps anyway. Buying these cards for that feature probably does not make much sense. I personally just want something new. I hope Nvidia don’t make me have to buy a second hand 1080Ti after waiting this long.

I had the opportunity to buy a Gigabyte 1080Ti Aurus Xtreme brand new from the jungle place for £580 which I declined over a year ago

 

[LoadsaMoney]

Well maybe next time AMD has a nice competing card you all might want to consider buying it to support them, instead of just going Baaaaaa and following the rest of the sheep.
Er... maybe thats not a good thing to say seeing as whats in my pc but meh anyway

You've got to laugh, only got themselves to blame

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

And as we all know, the 1st gen of any new graphics tech always turns out to perform like a bit of a dog further down the line. Another reason to skip it.

TBH,I would kind of expect people on older cards to be the main target of a new series launch like this - personally I am more interested to see what uarch changes Turing has over Maxwell/Pascal.

By the time those games come out the 2070/80 will probably not be able to run them at desirable fps anyway. Buying these cards for that feature probably does not make much sense. I personally just want something new. I hope Nvidia don’t make me have to buy a second hand 1080Ti after waiting this long.

I had the opportunity to buy a Gigabyte 1080Ti Aurus Xtreme brand new from the jungle place for £580 which I declined over a year ago

That is my concern too - this is the main reason I didn't go 4K,as running games at qHD is bad enough. Having said that if the leaks are true a RTX2080 is still faster than a GTX1080TI for probably similar money.

 

[Silent_Scone]

This is my point, it is not the Titan V and very unlikely to have the same or greater power draw.

Doesn't really prove anything regarding the cooler, though. NV have used the same design with minor tweaks for a few generations now, and it's not the best, either.

 

[Kaapstad]

Doesn't really prove anything regarding the cooler, though. NV have used the same design with minor tweaks for a few generations now, and it's not the best, either.

I agree the reference cooler has never been the best compared to some of the AIB partner ones.

What the reference cooler will do is run in almost all PCs however bad the airflow/layout is.

 

[MissChief]

I'm not really sure of those performance markers either. The 1080ti wasn't 40% faster than a 1080 that's for sure. Until I see some independent benchmarks I'm not being suckered in. I have no real intention of buying anyway!

 

[ltron]

You've got to laugh, only got themselves to blame

I always bought AMD/ATI when they were competitive. It's a pity more people didn't.

 

[EastCoastHandle]

Wow they are going to get you to buy a mid-range part at a high end price. Only Nvidia can do this do to mindshare.
Then one day, when they are truly acclimated to 7nm (as I assume this is all on 12nm) I'm guessing we will see the true TU102's and the TU104 will be regulated back to the mid-range price structure were they always were. And those that got one at 2x the price will blame AMD for not being competitive LOL.

Why do I say that? Well, we've seen something very similar before with the 1070 being replaced by a 1070 TI. Although both were GP104's. However:
1070 had 1920 CCs and 120 TUs <--this should have been a red flag as it's spec to low below 1080.
1070 ti has 2432 CC and 152 TUs
1080 (as a point of reference) also GP104 with 2560 CC's and 160 TUs. The 1070 TI spec should have originally been the 1070 from the beginning. But Nvidia found a way to get you to pay twice for the same arch. Brilliant marketing when you don't know better IMO.

 

[Zeed]

Well I cant complain my Titan with waterblock will be great another Year

 

[DELETED_195422]

AMD aren't going to save anyone. ATI going to AMD was just a waste.

I don't know what's worse at the moment, Nvidia's overpricing or if you buy an AMD card those funds going to console development and not back into the desktop market.

AMD are useless. All hope for competition within the GPU market is on Intel.

As for the 1180/2080 series of cards, i'll be skipping those and a couple of generations after that too. Hopefully some sanity will be restored to the market by the time 2023 arrives, which is when i'll be after a new GPU.

 

[TheRealDeal]

AMD aren't going to saving anyone. ATI going to AMD was just a waste.

I don't know what's worse at the moment, Nvidia's overpricing or if you buy an AMD card those funds going to console development and not back into the desktop market.

AMD are useless. All hope for competition within the GPU market is on Intel.

As for the 1180/2080 series of cards, i'll be skipping those and a couple of generations after that too. Hopefully some sanity will be restored to the market by the time 2023 arrives, which is when i'll be after a new GPU.

The PC market shunned AMD even when they were the sensible choice and better option in a lot of cases. Why should AMD concentrate on a market that for now is like ******* into the wind for them and a money hog. The Nvidia only buyers are going to get what they deserve. For the rich this won't be a problem but for those on normal wages they are going to get hit where it hurts. If AMD keep making strides on the cpu and soc side of things they may come back, by that time everyone might just be sick enough of Nvidia and there price hikes to look at the competition.

 

[Squid Vicious]

I always bought AMD/ATI when they were competitive. It's a pity more people didn't.

I was AMD up to and including 290X at which point I switched to NVidia as subsequent AMD cards imo weren't competitive in terms of price or performance.

I really feel like an upgrade after skipping 10XX series and wanting to run some games like FFXV and the Witcher at high refresh UW or 4K resolution... maybe I can find a second hand 1080Ti cheaper than 1170 goes for...

 

[TNA]

That is my concern too - this is the main reason I didn't go 4K,as running games at qHD is bad enough. Having said that if the leaks are true a RTX2080 is still faster than a GTX1080TI for probably similar money.

Trouble with paying that kind of money for a 2080 is that you know in 3-6 month you will get the ti version for the same price. Which is why I would rather get the 2070, see how it fares until the 2080Ti comes out and decide if I can wait until the 3070 comes out

If possible I would love to be able to go from xx70 to xx70 each gen. If it cost about £100-150 to upgrade every 2 years, that is not to bad. It is like being 1 gen behind from the top, but you get a much more efficient card running card. Also you get to have fun trying out the latest gen of cards each time rather than being stuck on a old hot power hungry card which is not great unless watercooled in the summer.

That said certain games like Cyberpunk 2077 will make me want to upgrade to something beefier.

 

[DELETED_195422]

Next thing you know Nvidia will have a subscription/contract model for their high-end cards. Want a 2080Ti, that'll be £200 upfront and then £9.99 each month until the end of your contract.

 

[scritchyrat]

Next thing you know Nvidia will have a subscription/contract model for their high-end cards. Want a 2080Ti, that'll be £200 upfront and then £9.99 each month until the end of your contract life.

FTFY

 

[EastCoastHandle]

The PC market shunned AMD even when they were the sensible choice and better option in a lot of cases. Why should AMD concentrate on a market that for now is like ******* into the wind for them and a money hog. The Nvidia only buyers are going to get what they deserve. For the rich this won't be a problem but for those on normal wages they are going to get hit where it hurts. If AMD keep making strides on the cpu and soc side of things they may come back, by that time everyone might just be sick enough of Nvidia and there price hikes to look at the competition.

I can actually agree to this. When mindshare start holding Nvidia accountable will things start to change. I guess the market will demand them to take action one way or another.

 

[DELETED_195422]

FTFY

They want the contract blood-signed too. So when you die, they still have you by the balls.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Trouble with paying that kind of money for a 2080 is that you know in 3-6 month you will get the ti version for the same price. Which is why I would rather get the 2070, see how it fares until the 2080Ti comes out and decide if I can wait until the 3070 comes out

If possible I would love to be able to go from xx70 to xx70 each gen. If it cost about £100-150 to upgrade every 2 years, that is not to bad. It is like being 1 gen behind from the top, but you get a much more efficient card running card. Also you get to have fun trying out the latest gen of cards each time rather than being stuck on a old hot power hungry card which is not great unless watercooled in the summer.

That said certain games like Cyberpunk 2077 will make me want to upgrade to something beefier.

The problem is the rumour is saying the RTX2070 isn't a cut down version of the RTX2080 but uses a lower end GPU. Hopefully this is not true.