Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

aowc02 · 2 Jun 2018 at 17:20

TNA said:
Lol with the HODL in the PC Gaming forum

Edit: Oh crap, it’s the graphics card forum, but still...

sorry couldnt resist

On a serious note, I think its just a bad time to be purchasing.

When the new cards are released, going to be able to pick up a lot of cheap cards by people trying to fund their upgrade in persuit of the extra FPS.

Going to be many bargains to be had. :cool:

aowc02 · 2 Jun 2018 at 17:21

CREATIVE!11 said:
I'M HODL'ING TILL COMPUTEX BRO, HODL 4 LYFE.

But in all seriousness seems like a bad time to drop big beans on 2 year old cards.... so we'll see.

indeed. i reckon you will save anywhere between 10-20% if you wait a few more weeks once theyre released.

Kaapstad · 2 Jun 2018 at 17:23

TNA said:
I am not sure it will be like this.

Surely after all this time Nvidia have a better architecture for gaming? Or maybe they are saving that for 7nm?

I don't think 12nm Volta will have improved in the last 9 months in the same way as 16nm Pascal has not budged an inch in the last 2 years.

I also think that NVidia only have one 12nm architecture even if they would like us to think of it by several different names. Volta with the DP and Tensor cores removed/lasered off is still Volta even if NVidia want to call it Turing or anything else.

Random Guy Esq. · 2 Jun 2018 at 18:46

No point in my HODLing. I'm off for the whole summer, so I can either sit around waiting until August for new cards, or I can game now with what's currently available. Come September, I'll be busy as ****, so won't be gaming one way or the other. First world problems and all that!

TNA · 2 Jun 2018 at 21:18

Kaapstad said:
I don't think 12nm Volta will have improved in the last 9 months in the same way as 16nm Pascal has not budged an inch in the last 2 years.

I also think that NVidia only have one 12nm architecture even if they would like us to think of it by several different names. Volta with the DP and Tensor cores removed/lasered off is still Volta even if NVidia want to call it Turing or anything else.

You could be right, probably are. I hope not though. Nvidia could easily have another architecture, not like they have been lacking the R&D money for a long time now.

Kaapstad · 2 Jun 2018 at 21:23

TNA said:
You could be right, probably are. I hope not though. Nvidia could easily have another architecture, not like they have been lacking the R&D money for a long time now.

Volta is nice though and without the DP and Tensor cores it will be a lot cheaper than the Titan V, I can see the 1180 being faster than a 1080 Ti but costing less.

JediFragger · 2 Jun 2018 at 22:31

Random Guy Esq. said:
I want to build in the next few weeks. If it's looking like August is the earliest for the new series, I'll just get a 1070 Ti now, and then upgrade when the 1180 Ti hits in 2019.

Tbf that's not a bad plan, and once tweaked the 1070Ti is pretty much the performance of a 1080. I'm going to wait for the 1180Ti, should be a monster (in next-gen api's at least)!

TNA · 2 Jun 2018 at 22:36

Kaapstad said:
Volta is nice though and without the DP and Tensor cores it will be a lot cheaper than the Titan V, I can see the 1180 being faster than a 1080 Ti but costing less.

Hey, not saying Volta is not nice. Just saying it would be nice having a newer architecture

I would be happy to buy a 1180 for around £550-600 which is 20% faster than a 1080Ti.

Let’s see how it goes, if by July/August nothing comes out, I may just have to get a decently priced used 1080Ti and maybe just wait for a 1180Ti.

Strife212 · 2 Jun 2018 at 22:50

Kaapstad said:
I can see the 1180 being faster than a 1080 Ti but costing less.

Of course it will be, like every x80 card ever.

Random Guy Esq. · 2 Jun 2018 at 23:05

JediFragger said:
Tbf that's not a bad plan, and once tweaked the 1080Ti is pretty much the performance of a 1080. I'm going to wait for the 1180Ti, should be a monster (in next-gen api's at least)!

Yeah! I've never actually owned a XX80 Ti card before, so getting one of those next summer with maybe a 4K monitor/TV is my current plan (or more likely, pie in the sky dream).

Kaapstad · 3 Jun 2018 at 00:22

TNA said:
Hey, not saying Volta is not nice. Just saying it would be nice having a newer architecture

I would be happy to buy a 1180 for around £550-600 which is 20% faster than a 1080Ti.

Let’s see how it goes, if by July/August nothing comes out, I may just have to get a decently priced used 1080Ti and maybe just wait for a 1180Ti.

I think you have got the price about right but the card will be about 5% to 10% faster than the 1080 Ti.

Titan V is about 35% faster than a Titan Xp so it is not hard to do the numbers.

I think Volta + GDDR6 will be great for gaming.

TNA · 3 Jun 2018 at 05:09

Kaapstad said:
I think you have got the price about right but the card will be about 5% to 10% faster than the 1080 Ti.

Titan V is about 35% faster than a Titan Xp so it is not hard to do the numbers.

I think Volta + GDDR6 will be great for gaming.

HBM2 is better

tyler_jrb · 3 Jun 2018 at 06:28

It’s going to be cheaper than the 1080Ti but which pricing structure is going to be the question.

I can see it easily being £700 rrp. The 1080 on launch day was between 575-600+ ish even for FE and nvidia are not known for releasing cards at a cheaper price.

Performance wise I’m guessing 10-20% as always. Titan V is around 20% so it would make some sense to be roughly on par with that/or slightly faster.

TNA · 3 Jun 2018 at 07:08

tyler_jrb said:
It’s going to be cheaper than the 1080Ti but which pricing structure is going to be the question.

I can see it easily being £700 rrp. The 1080 on launch day was between 575-600+ ish even for FE and nvidia are not known for releasing cards at a cheaper price.

Performance wise I’m guessing 10-20% as always. Titan V is around 20% so it would make some sense to be roughly on par with that/or slightly faster.

But why £700? Sure RAM prices have gone up, but not by that much. £700 for the FE would be taking the biscuit tbh.

DarrenM343 · 3 Jun 2018 at 08:10

1080 on release was £619 for FE and stayed at that price until it dropped,
I'll be very surprised if it's more than £650. Get Brexit cancelled and maybe it'd be more like £500-550

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Given how well Pascal has done it makes me wonder if that will affect the pricing of next gen negatively? Their market share probably can't grow a whole lot more and stupid pricing may put a ceiling on upgraders given how good Pascal has been and still is, despite aging now. Of course there are the miners and demand will pick up if crypto values improves

tyler_jrb · 3 Jun 2018 at 09:48

TNA said:
But why £700? Sure RAM prices have gone up, but not by that much. £700 for the FE would be taking the biscuit tbh.

New tech and shiny shiny so it is massively hyped and every man and his dog wants one, new architecture, new memory, miners, nvidia, no competition from AMD.

Be very suprised if it isn’t more. We haven’t had a release with mining involved as bad as it is now so is hard to say.

As above the 1080 on release was roughly £600. I paid £599 for FE from EVGA on launch day. FE were RRP as well, AIB’s were mostly even more expensive touching £700 in places.

AETAaAS · 3 Jun 2018 at 09:53

I wonder what it will actually be when it comes to retail. Has supply actually caught up or are miners just waiting to snap up new cards too?

TNA · 3 Jun 2018 at 10:05

tyler_jrb said:
New tech and shiny shiny so it is massively hyped and every man and his dog wants one, new architecture, new memory, miners, nvidia, no competition from AMD.

Be very suprised if it isn’t more. We haven’t had a release with mining involved as bad as it is now so is hard to say.

As above the 1080 on release was roughly £600. I paid £599 for FE from EVGA on launch day. FE were RRP as well, AIB’s were mostly even more expensive touching £700 in places.

It may end up that price, but I do not think the rrp will be that. I will likely just pre order an EVGA one as soon as it goes up for sale.

Dirk Diggler · 3 Jun 2018 at 10:53

DarrenM343 said:
Given how well Pascal has done it makes me wonder if that will affect the pricing of next gen negatively? Their market share probably can't grow a whole lot more and stupid pricing may put a ceiling on upgraders given how good Pascal has been and still is, despite aging now.

I agree with this. In the past, I would go from x80ti to x80 to x80ti.. and so on. I can say that this time round, I have no intention of buying the 1180 and I might be hard pushed to go for the 1180ti.

I struggle to name a title that my 1080ti can't cope with at 3440*1440.

Spyhop · 3 Jun 2018 at 12:41

Titan V showed Nvidia aren't shy about sticker price breaking expectations