Sorry bud, I haven't got my tin foil hat on.
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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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No you make perfect sense bud, maybe I am just looking at this too simply. The drivers though have always needed some development at release and this hasn't stopped me from believing that the card is far better than the last due to me only really focusing on the better more trusted reviewer like I hope we all would when making purchases at the peak of the GPU technology.
I completely understand that ray tracing and turin (whatever its called) is new but it's also so new no one else is really using it in their games so development in that respect of drivers doesn't matter so much and people will be much more forgiving. I think Nvidia due to the lack of competition have decided to take a chance and attempt to steer the gaming developers more in their direction with the future implementation of features such as ray tracing to completely knock AMD out of the market of performance GPUs once and for all and to achieve this the cards will infact not perform that much better than the 10xx series....
Personally I just want to play my triple AAA games from around a year ago to be maxed out at 4K at at least 60fps and I was willing to drop 900 quid on a 2080ti to achieve that. It's seems I will be left wanting due to the implementation of something Nvidia claims that we need when in fact no, it is not something that I need at all.
The benchmarks will show us but at over a grand for the card I can't see a lot of people investing. Maybe I'm a little sour about not getting what I want but come on, you have to admit that something just isnt right about this release
It's worth pointing out again that had the £ been better, you might have got your wish with cards closer to the £900 mark. Only Gibbo can probably give accurate numbers but they would be under 1k.
That wasn't the only point I was making dude, I'd also have to see raw data in regards to performance against the last series of cards and I just haven't seen that yet
Sure but even a 20-30% increase will make a big difference at 4k getting those frames over 60 and as high as possible. Hopefully it will be that and for the ti it's highly likely. Not long now though to wait.
Not long til release date and we will see numbers then. I personally love proper raytracing and was the sole reason I pre-ordered and if done properly, it is a game changer. I also understand your concerns (and many others) about not seeing any proper benchmarks and yer, it does have me a little worried. DLSS should be decent and upscaling done well should give some seriously nice gains but again, IQ is important to me, so I sure hope that it doesn't defer from the quality too much if at all.
And like Bigbeard said, the weak pound doesn't help with pricing.
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I don't buy the fact these are new. They were waiting for the bubble to burst before releasing. It's pretty obvious when you look at it from a business point of view, already behind on a release date compared to other generations, no competition and they're doing incredibly well selling old cards to miners - No real reason at the time to release.
We'll see though, hopefully the benchmarks will make them worth the money you dropped on it
You are a brave man Gregster and I salute you for it. I am eagerly awaiting the benchmarks and also your own feedback
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The constant shiny videos are making me want one. 
I would go with daft myself
But yer, I will be giving a vid or written review (probably the latter) with benchmarks and I bloody hope there is some serious gains over my current 1080Ti
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I would go with daft myself
At least you can return it if not 'product not as advertised'
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I would go with daft myself
Looking forward to your honest opinion too,i voted no to buying in the poll,but new tech,SHINY new tech lol,i'm very interested,my wallet far less so.
Have a 1080ti myself,4k monitor,and Oculus Rift too,not sure which is worse,the pain of waiting,or the financial agony.
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Don't worry about it. I bet half the people on this thread are in the same shoe's come the benchmarks they'll be even more. They're sheep - just pretending and going along with the rest for now.
Not all of us 'stupid peeps' have put money down as if you buy directly from Nvidia your credit/debit card is not charged until the product ships (unless you use Paypal) giving plenty of time to cancel should the reviews be poor while reserving a place in the queue in case it's amazing. My ship date is the end of October so I have even more time.I'm wondering if they're holding back benchmarks with these NDA's because nvidia know themselves the cards are a disappointment.
They're just giving themselves a buffer period to let the stupid peeps drop insane amounts of money on a GPU with absolutely no idea how good/bad they are before letting the negative benchmarks come out/sales plummet
Probably wrong, but if a company has truly made something they're proud of, especially in an industry where numbers are everything (fps, resolution etc) why would they not share a single thing about them? It's all getting a bit PR stunt-ish!
I feel bad that the prices are high, but I'm glad we're getting the Ti at the same time rather than it being held as a counter to whatever AMD may release in 6-12 months; AMD are nowhere to be seen at the high end so Nvidia feel no need to do this. It's a pity AMD were incompetent in their marketing allowing Nvidia to gain massive mindshare and when they were competitive people didn't buy their cards. I did though so it's not my fault the market's in this state.
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I'm waiting for benchmarks and whilst I want the Ti the more I look then the more the 2080 just seems better value. Especially if the pound gets stronger, we could easily see them a bit cheaper after launch...
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That's what I've done (with CC so can cancel easily from pre-order). I also really don't think NV are trying to trick people into buying disappointing GPU's - it would be a sure fire way to lose customers/NV fans to the competition. It's likely more about optimising the drivers ready for release. Still three weeks away. The stupid peeps at the moment at least are those believing they will be disappointing (stupid until proven otherwise
). I do think some may be disappointed as it's a bit of a bold move by nvidia but I'm looking at them as cards that will shine more over the coming year or so (than comparing with current/older games).If the Ti can pull off a 30%+ over the TXp, in current games,let alone future ones where the RT and tensor cores will probably be better used, that'll be fine to me.I'm not actually too bothered about a new GPU anyway atm but fairly sure I'll keep to the preorder for when I do have some spare time to enjoy gaming. Don't usually buy games on release and will be catching up with a backlog for some time, so RT probably less important to me but worth being ready for it.
I just hope RT works well with STALKER:Shadow of chenobyl
(and yes that is a joke)
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