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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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Are you trolling us @D3K ? They're made up numbers 
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By now? December.
There were no "leaks".
A Turkish guy took Nvidia performance value boasting, make a chart by applying the numbers on a spreadsheet, and every single gullible westerner who doesn't know the Turkish language to understand what he was saying, fell for it.
well comparing what you can get £ to performance its a tough call since the cheapest brand new 1080ti can be picked up for around £590 delivered now,which is 2070 money..not much incentive to buy a 2070 at that price if its going to get whooped by the old card is there 
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To each their own but I kind of am the opposite I can accept that NV may have been hitting a wall with traditional increases in speed so had to shape things up and that this won't help all games but the price stings for me
No I'm just a gullible westerner who doesn't know the Turkish language...Are you trolling us @D3K ? They're made up numbers
What does "You were never going to buy" actually mean, exactly? It's an argument that is used a *lot* by people, and normally accompanied by a "You're too poor for PC gaming" general attitude.
Do you believe that the posters complaining about price were:
1. Never going to buy a 2080/Ti.
2. Never going to buy nVidia.
3. Never going to buy any GPU (too poor for anything but console gaming).
Here's the obvious reply to this nonsense.
1. Do you think if a 2080 Ti was priced at £500 we still wouldn't buy? Or a 2080 at £350? Surely the price and perf is a massive part in deciding whether to buy/not to buy. Bear in mind some of us owned top-of-the-range/ 2nd-top cards back when the #1 card cost £400 and the #2 card cost £250 (a few years ago now).
2. This is nonsense in most cases.
3. This could end up being absolutely true for many. Priced out of PC gaming entirely, but not solely due to nV. If AMD follow suit, and with Intel putting their prices up lately, many of us simply can't justify/afford to continue.
But even #3 doesn't mean we were "never going to buy". We would have bought if prices weren't on an upwards death-spiral.
The whole "never going to buy" argument is so much crap it honestly beggars belief taht people think it's the ultimate put-down on here. Price and perf dictates who buys and who doesn't. We *all* have our limits.
I look forwards to using the same arguments (ironically) when Greg et al can no longer justify spending £10k for the 3080 Ti
"Oh Greg, you were never going to buy, so give it a rest. £10k is a perfectly good price for this awesome card with all it's GimpWorks 3.0 goodness."What does "You were never going to buy" actually mean, exactly? It's an argument that is used a *lot* by people, and normally accompanied by a "You're too poor for PC gaming" general attitude.
Do you believe that the posters complaining about price were:
1. Never going to buy a 2080/Ti.
2. Never going to buy nVidia.
3. Never going to buy any GPU (too poor for anything but console gaming).
Here's the obvious reply to this nonsense.
1. Do you think if a 2080 Ti was priced at £500 we still wouldn't buy? Or a 2080 at £350? Surely the price and perf is a massive part in deciding whether to buy/not to buy. Bear in mind some of us owned top-of-the-range/ 2nd-top cards back when the #1 card cost £400 and the #2 card cost £250 (a few years ago now).
2. This is nonsense in most cases.
3. This could end up being absolutely true for many. Priced out of PC gaming entirely, but not solely due to nV. If AMD follow suit, and with Intel putting their prices up lately, many of us simply can't justify/afford to continue.
But even #3 doesn't mean we were "never going to buy". We would have bought if prices weren't on an upwards death-spiral.
The whole "never going to buy" argument is so much crap it honestly beggars belief taht people think it's the ultimate put-down on here. Price and perf dictates who buys and who doesn't. We *all* have our limits.
I look forwards to using the same arguments (ironically) when Greg et al can no longer justify spending £10k for the 3080 Ti
I entirely agree . I had every intention of buying a 2080ti before the reveal , had it been up to 900 quid or so , could never afford the titan but the ti was always in reach. So instead of nvidia getting the max of my budget as they have done time and time again I've settled for the cheapest 2080 I could get saving me 200 quid of my budget ... Higher prices has just meant they havnt got as much out of me personally.... Still a sale but certainly not optimal . could have made more by being cheaper and I'm sure I'm not the only one
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RTX 2080 Ti vs GTX 1080 Ti benchmarks leaked.
Anywhere from 20-50% faster which is horrific really. The 1080 Ti is a year and a half old and cost £700. so on a worst case scenario when it's 20% faster than a 1080 Ti it'll be barely any faster than an overclocked Titan XP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfGJpVEzUxo
Anywhere from 20-50% faster which is horrific really. The 1080 Ti is a year and a half old and cost £700. so on a worst case scenario when it's 20% faster than a 1080 Ti it'll be barely any faster than an overclocked Titan XP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfGJpVEzUxo
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Well while the price isn't great pc gaming as a whole is much cheaper than it ever has been if you want to game on a HD screen.
The high end is now ultra high but the facts appear to suggest that most just simply are not interested in 4k or ultrawide as the volume of those screens and prices don't seem to be moving. They seem to be for a small group of enthusiasts.
This is probably why the price at the high end is increasing, it's reflecting what is becoming a 2 tier market. HD screens and affordable hardware at one end and VR and high resolution at the other.
The high end is now ultra high but the facts appear to suggest that most just simply are not interested in 4k or ultrawide as the volume of those screens and prices don't seem to be moving. They seem to be for a small group of enthusiasts.
This is probably why the price at the high end is increasing, it's reflecting what is becoming a 2 tier market. HD screens and affordable hardware at one end and VR and high resolution at the other.
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The fat guy stole the data from another fake video which was just guesstimates.
I don't agree with this at all.
If you buy 2nd hand and stick to 1080p there is absolutely no reason you could not afford to be a PC gamer over a console gamer.
The problem with most people in this forum is they chase the numbers. They have to have 4k, they have to have 144fps (some even claim they will not truly be happy until they have both). I feel sorry for PC gamers who say, "oh I could never go back to 1080p" or "I can't possibly play below 100fps" - what happened to enjoying the most important aspect of a game - the gameplay?? God of War and HZD on the PS4 are some of the best gaming experiences I have had recently, yet there are people here who wouldn't even entertain playing them because to them, gaming is no longer about gameplay but about numbers. /sad
I'm going to ignore "on a HD screen", because that narrows the options down far too much.
PC gaming has been much cheaper. I remember £150 GPUs that kicked absolute arse. GTX 460, HD 7850.
I remember £80 CPUs that were fast and great for gaming. Barton 2500.
Conversely back in the 80s PCs were more expensive. But they were in their infancy is gaming systems back then.
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To be fair a gtx1060 can be had for less than £200 and can nail most things at HD. Plenty of CPU out there for affordable prices too.A sub £150 rx560 does a reasonable job too.
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Yep and some of them are saying they are going to go to consoles now instead. Well if they do that they will end up playing at 4k/30fps or 1080p/60fps at medium settings anyway. I love the consoles but I'm under no illusion that they can compete with decent pc hardware, or even mid spec pc hardware. The prices are not really that much different now, a top end PC is £2k - my 17 930 PC with SSD and GTX 480 cost about £2k, my Escom Pentium back in 2004 cost £1k and that didn't even have a dedicated graphics card. Its never been cheap to be on the leading edge of tech. At the moment the GPU costs a lot, power supply is relatively cheap, SSD's cost little and CPU's are competitive. A while ago HD's & SSD's cost a fortune, CPU's were silly and graphics were affordable.
The RTX 2080 ti will probably be about £700 in a years time anyway or potentially replaced by cards with another 30-40% improvement. As with anything if the price/performance is not to your liking vs what you have then don't buy it. It's ultra premium because the 2080/1080ti can do most things at 1440p anyway so 95% of the market will probably end up getting that or lower.
I wonder what Nvidia makes of all the fuss, they appear to be selling out of 2080ti anyway but perhaps launching such a high end card at launch is hurting 2080 sales. Maybe it would have been better to launch 2080 introduce RTX and then launch 2080ti in 4-6 months time at £800 once the inventory was stocked a bit and give themselves a second bite of the cherry.