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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread
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Is that to say we are going to see a lot of 1080 ti go on sale?
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Well the same can be said with Turing.It won't be that high with more than just that car on the track though
I didn't mention it before but you are correct. Those frame rates represent just a single car on the track.
Both the Pascal and Turing cards will take the appropriate perforamance hit once there is a full grid of cars on to race against.
But the important takeaway is the performance of the RTX card. Now I know what to expect upon release.
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More likely Nvidia will keep the prices high for the RTX, making the GTX1080/Ti looking like bargains even at current prices.
Thats something most worthy youtubers have said like AdoredTv.
You forget something. £700 10 years ago are of same value (inflation adjusted) as £1100 today (with the extra VAT we pay now)
In USD the 8800GTX is at $1000 in today's money. And 8800GTX is a card 295 times slower than the GTX1080ti.
https://youtu.be/KEzXINCcEdo
This guy is amazing. He literally just made some charts using 1080ti stats and multiplying the values by a theoretical 1.4 to show us what fps we might get on a 2080ti.
I'm gonna start my own YouTube channel .
In fact anyone interested? We could do better than most and make some money along the way.
This guy is amazing. He literally just made some charts using 1080ti stats and multiplying the values by a theoretical 1.4 to show us what fps we might get on a 2080ti.
I'm gonna start my own YouTube channel .
In fact anyone interested? We could do better than most and make some money along the way.
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The who or what, the definition isn't fit for forum consumption. Normally, I'd say it's users who have absolutely no intention on buying a product even if the RRP came in at 30-50% less. Those are obviously man math numbers
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Consumers should not have to pay the price for them over producing and having it backfire. They were the ones seeing nothing but £$€ when the mining craze was going on. To say this is a disappointment would be a huge understatement. Worse will be when they keep future releases at these inflated prices because of two reasons; they have successfully done it before and to not make this cover up seem so obvious. NVIDIA and AIBs clearly make profit on selling cards at current prices and not mention due to mass production getting parts at whole sale prices. What I am getting at is they could reduce the price of 10 series, which would sell fast without a doubt, and not take a loss. They could sell the current generation at reasonable prices with reasonable performance gains to show appreciation for the consumers that are what make's it's company so successful by paying their bills and salaries.
As many others have said Intel cannot come soon enough into this sector of the market as I don't find AMD to be the answer.
As many others have said Intel cannot come soon enough into this sector of the market as I don't find AMD to be the answer.
Indeed. The clickbaiting is so good for money making these days.
But personally I am not interesting. However if you want to monetize, 3dprint the FE cards shroud to show that you have it in hand (fit it on existing card), and make fictional benchmarks.
By the time they call you out (11 days) you will be getting the money from Youtube advertising....
If you're unhappy with the pricing, best thing to do is vote with your wallet. But I have a sneaking suspicion that it's going to be the same as with previous launches, people complaining about one thing or another then buying the product in question.
I remember spending 400 po+ cpu 300 pounds for motherboard every 2-3 years cause tech was going so fast that 3 year old hardware was peperweight. Also remember paying 600 pouinds for 15 inch crt monitor so... I see it all as cheap.
I am not sure why the majority in there complaining about RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti prices.
When GTX 1080 was launched back in 2016 it was cost around £650 for reference blower cards and £750+ for custom cards there at OCUK, it amazed me nobody complained about the prices! Same thing with GTX 980 Ti and Titan X prices and everybody was fine with these prices.
I wondered what the majority in here had been doing 11 years ago in 2007?
Found the prices table from other forum:
8800 Ultra was launched on 2 May 2007, it was the most expensive GPU ever cost $850 compared to Geforce 8800 GTX cost $600 launched back in November 2006. I remembered bought Gainward Geforce 8800 GTX which used reference design for over £400 from competitor and I was on nvnews.net forum at the time remembered many people on the forum bought custom 8800 GTX and 8800 Ultra cards were fine with high prices and nobody complained about very high dollar price $1000 for custom cards. Cant remembered what 8800 Ultra prices at OCUK was, May 2007 exchange rate was $1.99 and UK VAT was 17.5% probably cost £500 for reference cards and £600+ for custom cards at OCUK.
Imagine if today exchange rate $1.29 and UK 20% VAT were applied in 2007 then Geforce 8800 Ultra would cost £799 for reference cards and £899+ for custom cards so RTX 2080 prices is not that bad.
Many got no clue how cheap hardware is compared to 18-20 years ago !!! And it was JUNK in 2-3 years not able to play games even at LOW !!!
200 years ago we'd all have been down the mines, and been lucky to reach the ripe old age of 30.
That's not the point. We've had it better in recent years.
The point is that nVidia are artificially inflating the price above and beyond all reasonableness, because (they feel) they can.
It's somewhat disheartening that so many people want to be bent over a barrel. Possibly whilst gazing dreamily at a life-sized poster of Jensen.
I remember walking uphill four miles in two feet of snow to buy my Riva 2. Indentured myself to a cruel tobacco farmer for two years for it, I did! By the time I got back - after walking back uphill - to the homestead, it wouldn't even play the newest Quake title.
I tell you, these whippersnappers with their expectations for price/performance!
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I'm tempted to cancel my 2080ti order. I do want a new card to replace my now over 2yr old GTX 1080 but I do have a bit of buyers remorse over the price. Will probably sell the 1080 for £300 give or take so not sure if it makes sense to spend another £750, might get a 2080 but looking at these 2080ti results it's a concern that it might not be man enough to run RTX games at a reasonable framerate on my 3440x1440 display.
It has been really good recently with crushingly bad economies and currency worth nothing you’re right. They probably priced it high because they would like to make some money, because last time I checked they are not a charity. Costs increasing with the hardware and high R&D costs need to be recouped.
I don’t see anyone in tears because an iPhone X is a grand and basically the same as the one in your pocket, because they buy what they can/want to as believe it or not you are not automatically entitled to the very highest end product.
Pick virtually any other technology product and it’s the same, people really are strange about GPUs... if you want to buy it, buy it, if you don’t or can’t then you won’t. Expecting some sort of complete linear price to performance increase is nonsense.
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I am not sure why the majority in there complaining about RTX 2080 and RTX 2080 Ti prices.
When GTX 1080 was launched back in 2016 it was cost around £650 for reference blower cards and £750+ for custom cards there at OCUK, it amazed me nobody complained about the prices! Same thing with GTX 980 Ti and Titan X prices and everybody was fine with these prices.
I wondered what the majority in here had been doing 11 years ago in 2007?
Found the prices table from other forum:
8800 Ultra was launched on 2 May 2007, it was the most expensive GPU ever cost $850 compared to Geforce 8800 GTX cost $600 launched back in November 2006. I remembered bought Gainward Geforce 8800 GTX which used reference design for over £400 from competitor and I was on nvnews.net forum at the time remembered many people on the forum bought custom 8800 GTX and 8800 Ultra cards were fine with high prices and nobody complained about very high dollar price $1000 for custom cards. Cant remembered what 8800 Ultra prices at OCUK was, May 2007 exchange rate was $1.99 and UK VAT was 17.5% probably cost £500 for reference cards and £600+ for custom cards at OCUK.
Imagine if today exchange rate $1.29 and UK 20% VAT were applied in 2007 then Geforce 8800 Ultra would cost £799 for reference cards and £899+ for custom cards so RTX 2080 prices is not that bad.
Don't you get that they've made another rebrand?
The 2080ti is the 1080-level card with the cut-sized chip... which was an upscale of what used to be called the x60 cards from the GTX580 era.
So this round is a rather large price hike... £600 all the way up to £1100 in one generation!
Not sure when, but we will see an Ultra or Titan version of this chip... and it is not going to be pretty price-wise.
We have yet to see anything about the 1080ti/titan Xp replacement announed yet.
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Nothing artificial about it as that is how capitalism works.
I can understand people being angry with Apple because of how high they price their current generation phones as there is no other choice unless you want to change ecosystem which can be a big hassle for some.
But with GPUs there is a massive range of cards from the 2 chip teams and no lock in.
No one is forced to buy a 75K sports car any more than you are forced to buy a 1k+ GPU.
They are both luxury items with much cheaper models available.
for me its not so much the high price of the top card,the 2080ti,its the fact that its dragging the other, what used to be decent priced gaming cards we could afford (read 960,1060) prices up towards what the top tier prices were befores,its driving the mid tier cards out of the reach of us mere mortals.
To my knowledge, my phone cost me £99. I haven't changed it for about 6 years.
Remind me again where I left my £1,000 iPhone? I am getting a bit forgetful.
Also it's great that only the Ti and the 2080 shot up in price. Good thing the 2070 didn't, and we're expecting a ~£200 2060.
OH ****** WAIT.
Actually I have no sympathy whatsoever for people who think they've been "forced" to buy a £1,000 iPhone. None whatsoever. They are literally idiots (if they even exist).