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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

So whoose (sic) psyched to pay anything up to £1,500 to play ....
Yet some people get excited at paying almost 50% more than the base price of this GPU so they can transcode videos and other off-line tasks quicker!
I have no interest in either but paying more for real-time performance (DAW, Games etc) makes more sense to me than for stuff that I can run overnight.
For business use it's a different story of course.
 
The 2080 is no faster than the 1080Ti in normal games, certainly nothing that you will actually be able to notice.

NOT true. It will definitely be faster, we're just unsure by how much yet. Current estimates are around 5-10%.

And sure if you turn down settings you will be able to run games over 100FPS at 3440x1440p, but I guarantee you, that you won't be getting 100FPS on all games.

No need to turn stuff down. I can garuntee the 2080 will get 100+ fps in nearly all games at 3440x1440p and the 2080ti will get close to being able to sustain 144hz in all games.

Lastly, unless you are looking at frame counter, the Vega 64 with a Freesync monitor will give you a better gaming experience than 1080ti level of performance without a sync monitor. This I know to be true and echoed by a few people in this forum that have used both.

No it won't. Adaptive Sync tech like Gsync is overrated imo. I am confident ill definitely notice a difference from having 20-40 more fps over my Vega 64. I also won't need a Sync if I can maintain 100hz on my current Ultrawide and I'm confident the 2080 will do this.

So if you really want to get better gaming experience you should buy a Gsync monitor. Not sure why you would buy a freesync monitor.

I completely disagree. Higher FPS is better than having Freesync/Gsync enabled imo. I'd buy another Freesync monitor for better specs over a higher priced Gsync taxed one.
 
No need to argue over buying a freesync vs gsync monitor since you can now hack your freesync monitor to work with gysnc (as long as you have an extra graphics output e.g. 2400g, old AMD card).
 
No need to argue over buying a freesync vs gsync monitor since you can now hack your freesync monitor to work with gysnc (as long as you have an extra graphics output e.g. 2400g, old AMD card).

Far from a complete solution though - adds some extra latency (to varying degrees depending on setup and game) and even with using an APU so you can select the output device in the drivers compatibility isn't 100% with everything.

Also G-Sync still does some things better - currently has wider compatibility with games that don't do proper fullscreen modes and/or if you are playing in a window, low framerate handling is better even if slightly a moot point as when you are hitting FPS where low framerate management kicks in you are pretty much having a bad experience anyhow but still.

The potential combination of FastSync and FreeSync could be interesting though.

I completely disagree. Higher FPS is better than having Freesync/Gsync enabled imo.

Upto a point - there is no real substitute for having enough FPS but atleast for me G-Sync means single player stuff is now playable around 60 FPS* when before I needed to be able to sustain around 100 FPS or it just felt nasty and the tearing wasn't pleasant and online multiplayer is much more acceptable at around 100-120 FPS when likewise before I'd be aiming for 120+ FPS minimum.


* Before G-Sync a game that was hovering around 50-80 FPS I could feel the input latency too much having V-Sync on especially with the jumping between 45 and 60 when it couldn't hit 60 and the framerate wasn't high enough to minimise my perception of rippling and tearing with V-Sync off.
 
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NOT true. It will definitely be faster, we're just unsure by how much yet. Current estimates are around 5-10%.

NOT true , not unless you have any actual facts to back that up . assumption is the mother of all **** ups


No need to turn stuff down. I can garuntee the 2080 will get 100+ fps in nearly all games at 3440x1440p and the 2080ti will get close to being able to sustain 144hz in all games.

Guarantee ? stop it please .

No it won't. Adaptive Sync tech like Gsync is overrated imo. I am confident ill definitely notice a difference from having 20-40 more fps over my Vega 64. I also won't need a Sync if I can maintain 100hz on my current Ultrawide and I'm confident the 2080 will do this.



I completely disagree. Higher FPS is better than having Freesync/Gsync enabled imo. I'd buy another Freesync monitor for better specs over a higher priced Gsync taxed one.

G-sync / Fresync are proberly one of the better upgrades ive made for along time . coming from high refresh rates to g-sync I can say with certainty that It makes a massive difference , high refresh rate or not
 
NOT true , not unless you have any actual facts to back that up . assumption is the mother of all **** ups

Not an assumption. FACTS.

The 3dMark TimeSpy score of the RTX 2080 was 10,030. The 1080Ti was 9,508.

That means the 2080 scored 9.5% higher than the 1080TI.

G-sync / Fresync are proberly one of the better upgrades ive made for along time . coming from high refresh rates to g-sync I can say with certainty that It makes a massive difference , high refresh rate or not

I've had both Gsync and Freesync in the past. The difference is only massive when your GPU can't support high frame rates. The difference is virtually unnoticeable when you have a GPU that can sustain FPS close or above your monitors refresh rate.
 
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NOT true. It will definitely be faster, we're just unsure by how much yet. Current estimates are around 5-10%.



No need to turn stuff down. I can garuntee the 2080 will get 100+ fps in nearly all games at 3440x1440p and the 2080ti will get close to being able to sustain 144hz in all games.



No it won't. Adaptive Sync tech like Gsync is overrated imo. I am confident ill definitely notice a difference from having 20-40 more fps over my Vega 64. I also won't need a Sync if I can maintain 100hz on my current Ultrawide and I'm confident the 2080 will do this.



I completely disagree. Higher FPS is better than having Freesync/Gsync enabled imo. I'd buy another Freesync monitor for better specs over a higher priced Gsync taxed one.

Troll post to trigger melmac?
 
So whoose psyched to pay anything up to £1,500 to play a few games at circa 30-40 fps at 1080p?

Further question how many people who are going to spend anything up to £1,500 on a GPU have a monitor that natively supports 1080p?

Most people in the market for a new 'ti' card (let's ignore the price for the incoming cards for a moment) would likely have a QHD monitor, wide 3440x1440 montiors of 4k montiors with 60hz refreshes rates. The first two are going to have interpolation issues (and potentially unused screen space for the wide monitors) .. I suppose at least the 60hz refresh rate on thoose 4k montiors won't be an issue when you not often exceeding 60fps..

I suppose you could give Nvidia even more money and buy one of the eye-wateringly expensive high refresh 4k monitors with a gsync module so you can play games without RTX that occasionally get the benefit of the faster refresh rate whilst scaling back to 1080p and often sub 60fps for the RTX stuff . .....

But I can't help feel that the smart money even for 'enthusiasts' (who don't have silly money) is to save their pennies, hopefully see AMD come up with something on a smaller node that's far more compretive then their current offerings, performance wise. Wait and see what Nvidia are doing at around this time and make the choice then.....

The amount of bovine waste matter that has accompanied this release has I think hit new heights. From a product reveal where they didn't really talk about performance in any currently available titles to claims that the Pascal lineup (especially at the high end) has almost 'sold out' because Nvidia don't have any pascal chips left ... . When this seems to be mostly because they have forced AIB's to take large shipments of pascal chips rather late on in its product life cycle

I'll be paying about £1049, less after I sell my ti, for what should be some nice gains at 3440x1440. Not sure who these are paying £1500 for 1080p but I guess there must be some. Maybe they are giving the retailer £1500 and not asking for change as there are no cards for £1500. That's dedication to the cause.
 
Not an assumption. FACTS.

The 3dMark TimeSpy score of the RTX 2080 was 10,030. The 1080Ti was 9,508.

That means the 2080 scored 9.5% higher than the 1080TI.

We are not even sure that the 3dmark TimeSpy score was genuine.

What we do know is the card used was overclocked and if you did the same to a 1080 Ti the Pascal card wins.
 
Not an assumption. FACTS.

The 3dMark TimeSpy score of the RTX 2080 was 10,030. The 1080Ti was 9,508.

That means the 2080 scored 9.5% higher than the 1080TI.

so I can only assume by this , it was your 2080 and you posted that bench run ? ohh that's right , everythings still under NDA , and until actual reviews and trusted benches are released , its still not a fact , unless you have actual insider knowledge ( which you wouldn't break an NDA to reveal )

I have had g-sync and high refresh monitors , and now both together , its a lot better now then with just one of the two.
 
Not an assumption. FACTS.

The 3dMark TimeSpy score of the RTX 2080 was 10,030. The 1080Ti was 9,508.

That means the 2080 scored 9.5% higher than the 1080TI.
Not a fact at all and was a generic GPU, which could have been a 2080. Plus there is OC 1080Ti's that score far more than 9508. I do expect the 2080 to be roughly on par with wins in some and losses in others but big wins in DLSS games.
 
NOT true. It will definitely be faster, we're just unsure by how much yet. Current estimates are around 5-10%.

640 more Cuda cores on the 1080ti
(3584 vs 2944 nearly 18% difference) and a 352 vs 256 bit memory bus (even with ggdr6 on the 2080) mean that its far from settled that the 2080 will actually consistently be faster then a 1080ti in existing games where the new features of the Turing architeture can't be used.

Will need to wait for some actual proper reviews with release drivers to tell for sure.
 
I think at the moment is a very exciting time for GPU evolution as Ray Tracing and DLSS are going to be a real game changer.

I don't know how well these new techs will work with the 20XX series of cards but they are out there and there is no going back. Even if the 20XX series don't quite have the horsepower to fully benefit from the tech the next gen of cards on 7nm will definitely get us there.

I do think NVidia deserve some praise for trying something totally new, unfortunately to do this means using huge dies which are expensive to manufacture.

The worst that can happen is the new techs don't run very well but on the positive side the cards are still going to be noticeably faster than the previous Pascal cards. If the new tech does work well then that is a very big cherry on the cake.

Congrats to anyone buying a 20XX series card, exciting times ahead.:)
 
I think at the moment is a very exciting time for GPU evolution as Ray Tracing and DLSS are going to be a real game changer.

I don't know how well these new techs will work with the 20XX series of cards but they are out there and there is no going back. Even if the 20XX series don't quite have the horsepower to fully benefit from the tech the next gen of cards on 7nm will definitely get us there.

I do think NVidia deserve some praise for trying something totally new, unfortunately to do this means using huge dies which are expensive to manufacture.

The worst that can happen is the new techs don't run very well but on the positive side the cards are still going to be noticeably faster than the previous Pascal cards. If the new tech does work well then that is a very big cherry on the cake.

Congrats to anyone buying a 20XX series card, exciting times ahead.:)

+1 amid all the bickering about fps and pricing at least there are some genuine developments for better or worse. we could be in a situation like with intel a few years back drip feeding minor improvements gen on gen
 
I'll be paying about £1049, less after I sell my ti, for what should be some nice gains at 3440x1440. Not sure who these are paying £1500 for 1080p but I guess there must be some. Maybe they are giving the retailer £1500 and not asking for change as there are no cards for £1500. That's dedication to the cause.

There's the strix. You'd be absolutely mental to even consider that though when the MSI Gaming X trio can be had for £1160 ISH.
 
Yer, anyone getting a 2080Ti will only be getting that one. Nobody will be looking at the cheaper ones!

The Founder Edition at £1099 would probably be a good shout.

It comes with a twin fan cooler as standard which negates some of the advantage AIB partners have traditionally enjoyed.
 
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