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Geforce GTX1180/2080 Speculation thread

Fist time poster here, been reading this thread for ages and can’t believe the statements from some people. I came here looking for insights into the 2080ti as I thought I might get one, obvs the price of the card has put me off a somehwhat as I have a 1080 currently. I can get the card through my company so wouldn’t pay vat or tax but still think I might just get a ultra wide instead for now and sit it out for awhile.

I fully understand people buying this card and can’t get my head around people attacking them saying how stupid they are etc without benchmarks.. pre-orders can be cancelled or even cards sent back if you aren’t happy.. anyway just wanted to say hi to everything and looking forward to reviews.
 
WantoN said:
I cannot imagine having a thought process that makes pre-ordering the new cards at current prices a good idea. I literally cannot imagine a world where I would ever think that. There are no proper statements or benchmarks, and all rumours point to the 2080 being slower than a 1080ti, which can be had for £600 new at the minute.

I'm really not knocking anyones who's buying one, it's just that I would have to be either insane or under the influence of some seriously heavy duty narcotics to buy one. Literally.
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Perhaps you don't live in Europe where such thought processes are completely safe because we have distance selling laws which completely negate *any* risk of buying these cards and not being able to return them if they do not perform as expected....
 
melmac said:
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Dont listen to Las Vega as he's fanboying hard for the 2080/2080ti at the moment.
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No, you had no comeback so the best you could do is call me an AMD fanboy and that I am biased against Nvidia and the RTX. Just because I am not living in LALA land like you doesn't make me an AMD fanboy. The only thing I got against these new cards is the price. I am very interested in the Ray Tracing side of things and I have made several posts saying that 60FPS on 1080p in Real Time Ray Tracing is an amazing achievement. Also, I have mentioned several times about how good a feature DLSS is and how I think it will be the best feature of these new cards. Or maybe you are upset because Tom Petersen came out an said that the 2080 is 35% to 45% faster than the 1080 which puts it slower than the 1080Ti overall. But, don't cry, I am sure it will be faster in some games.

And if selling a card AMD and buying one from Nvidia cures you of been a Fanboy then I was cured a long time ago. I sold my Vega 64 and bought a 1080Ti, the plan was to buy a Gsync monitor, but, now I am waiting to see what 7nm cards bring to the table. And because I have a 1080Ti I know that you won't be getting 100fps in all games at 3440x1440p with your 2080 unless you turn down settings.

Maybe start doing some critical thinking about your pre-order, because your blind love for a card you have never met is making you say some very silly things.
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Paladine said:
Perhaps you don't live in Europe where such thought processes are completely safe because we have distance selling laws which completely negate *any* risk of buying these cards and not being able to return them if they do not perform as expected....
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I don’t want to play games at 1080p 60Hz for some extra lighting at 60fps, and certainly not for £1,200.

I don’t want to pay £1200 for a card that could be less than 35% faster than its last-generation equivalent that costs £600.

I don’t want to pay £1200 for an overpriced product touting old technology strapped on in the form of some extra silicon, marketing it as something new and gamechanging.

I don’t want to encourage NVidia’s price gouging tactics, provide them obscene margins and set a trend for generations to come.

That being said, I’ll reiterate what I stated previously; that’s just my mindset. I’m not knocking anyone who thinks otherwise, I really hope the cards perform beyond their expectations and they’re utterly delighted with their purchase. It’s their money and their choice, and my view on the cards neither makes me think less of them, or that they’re dissapointed with their purchase.
 
LOL calm down kids no point in arguing about what the performance of the card is, no reliable and detailed stats have been released yet. Nobody knows if it's the greatest thing ever or a cynical cash grab so there is no point in arguing the toss about it.
 
WantoN said:
I don’t want to play games at 1080p 60Hz for some extra lighting at 60fps, and certainly not for £1,200.

I don’t want to pay £1200 for a card that could be less than 35% faster than its last-generation equivalent that costs £600.

I don’t want to pay £1200 for an overpriced product touting old technology strapped on in the form of some extra silicon, marketing it as something new and gamechanging.

I don’t want to encourage NVidia’s price gouging tactics, provide them obscene margins and set a trend for generations to come.

That being said, I’ll reiterate what I stated previously; that’s just my mindset. I’m not knocking anyone who thinks otherwise, I really hope the cards perform beyond their expectations and they’re utterly delighted with their purchase. It’s their money and their choice, and my view on the cards neither makes me think less of them, or that they’re dissapointed with their purchase.
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At least try and stay consistent between 2 posts:

I cannot imagine having a thought process that makes pre-ordering the new cards at current prices a good idea. I literally cannot imagine a world where I would ever think that. There are no proper statements or benchmarks, and all rumours point to the 2080 being slower than a 1080ti
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You don't know the card is less than 35% faster - it is just unofficial rumours and speculation (which have already been debunked with official statements which would be considered illegal under the FTC Act if they were false)
You have no basis whatsoever to claim the product is overpriced - you have an opinion that it is overpriced but it is not a fact and should not be stated as such.
You have no idea what Nvidia's margins are on these cards - they could even be loss leaders - there has been no official breakdown of material or R&D costs.

So basically everything you have said is either completely baseless or based on speculation and rumour (which is effectively baseless and has already been debunked through official statements by Nvidia and several developers)...
 
Thomas Peterson really swerved a direct 1080ti vs 2080 question with "I *think* 2080 will beat 1080Ti, in *some* cases but i don't have the numbers in front of me". I guess it's a moot point anyway because it's actually the 2070 which shares pricing with 1080ti these days and somehow i think GTX will take that one.
 
Moments420 said:
Thomas Peterson really swerved a direct 1080ti vs 2080 question with "I *think* 2080 will beat 1080Ti, in *some* cases but i don't have the numbers in front of me". I guess it's a moot point anyway because it's actually the 2070 which shares pricing with 1080ti these days and somehow i think GTX will take that one.
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If you are referring to my response above - Wanton was talking about 1080Ti vs 2080Ti - it is clear from the prices he was using.
 
I know this is the speculation thread and all but there seems to be a lot of ruffled feathers in here with out anyone knowing performance of the released products or were they fit in line with the current products (ie is the 2080ti the new Titan or is it an update to the 1080ti). Going to hold off on judgement of the product (not the people who buy the products, that is their business) until released and there are plenty of reviews available.
 
Paladine said:
At least try and stay consistent between 2 posts:

You don't know the card is less than 35% faster - it is just unofficial rumours and speculation (which have already been debunked with official statements which would be considered illegal under the FTC Act if they were false)
You have no basis whatsoever to claim the product is overpriced - you have an opinion that it is overpriced but it is not a fact and should not be stated as such.
You have no idea what Nvidia's margins are on these cards - they could even be loss leaders - there has been no official breakdown of material or R&D costs.

So basically everything you have said is either completely baseless or based on speculation and rumour (which is effectively baseless and has already been debunked through official statements by Nvidia and several developers)...
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You seem keen to have an argument.

Given Nvidia have been developing these for a while, and last financial analysis showed them to be more profitable than ever, it’s safe to say that these new cards are going to make them plenty of money. The tech isn’t new, either.

Everything I’ve said is conjecture, everything anyone has said is conjecture. Have you seen the title of the thread mate?

You’ve come across quite wound up. I won’t accuse you of being a fanboy, but did you preorder by any chance?

I love new tech, and I love discussing it, even if I have no intention of buying it, which unfortunately with these prices I don’t. Share your speculation mate, it’s what the threads for.
 
joker666 said:
Fist time poster here, been reading this thread for ages and can’t believe the statements from some people. I came here looking for insights into the 2080ti as I thought I might get one, obvs the price of the card has put me off a somehwhat as I have a 1080 currently. I can get the card through my company so wouldn’t pay vat or tax but still think I might just get a ultra wide instead for now and sit it out for awhile.

I fully understand people buying this card and can’t get my head around people attacking them saying how stupid they are etc without benchmarks.. pre-orders can be cancelled or even cards sent back if you aren’t happy.. anyway just wanted to say hi to everything and looking forward to reviews.
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Welcome to the forum (madhouse) :D

BTW the cancelling of pre-orders has been pointed out a number of times but fortunately many ignore this fact and the fun continues!

If you stick around long enough you'll witness an AMD release thread which makes this look like Sunday school :D
 
WantoN said:
You seem keen to have an argument.

Given Nvidia have been developing these for a while, and last financial analysis showed them to be more profitable than ever, it’s safe to say that these new cards are going to make them plenty of money. The tech isn’t new, either.

Everything I’ve said is conjecture, everything anyone has said is conjecture. Have you seen the title of the thread mate?

You’ve come across quite wound up. I won’t accuse you of being a fanboy, but did you preorder by any chance?

I love new tech, and I love discussing it, even if I have no intention of buying it, which unfortunately with these prices I don’t. Share your speculation mate, it’s what the threads for.
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I am not wound up I just find it odd that someone would effectively infer that people are mad for pre-ordering then defend that with completely baseless arguments.

I ordered 2 and I am am very much looking forward to them arriving.
 
It's best not to call people mad for pre ordering these cards, they are financially invested in the product which in turn means they become emotionally invested.

It's a fact that people will always defend something they are financially and emotionally invested in, until a time that the product let's them down or turns out to be much less than they were hoping to receive.

They will always look for the smallest of redeeming qualities to reinforce their decision to buy, and will often be unable to understand why others do not feel the same way about said products as they do.

As well as this they will seek like minded individuals who share their mindset as a way to reinforce their purchase choice.

This behaviour happens a lot and very frequently in technology, especially as there are a lot of scenarios where there are 2 sides at play, AMD v Intel, AMD v Nvidia, Sony v Microsoft, Android Vs Apple etc etc.

Some researchers believe this is an almost primal thing and relate it to a deep rooted belief or awareness of good v evil, the human need to paint the opposite of what they are championing as almost a nemesis or evil.

End if the day, of your dropping significant amounts of money on pieces of computer hardware to play computer games it is impossible not to have an emotional attachment which will cloud your view.

Who hasn't bought new pc bits and been excited when setting it up and using it the first time?
 
@KentMan bore off will you, you pretty much post the same long winded post every day just re-worded.

Pro-tip, what’s a significant amount of money to you, isn’t for everyone else and if you want to go down that road then there’s people buying cheaper nVidia or AMD cards that must be emotionally invested also as it’s all relative to how much they earn or have in the bank.

A £300 card to someone on £18k a year is similar to someone buying a £1000 card on £60k a year.
 
five8five said:
Welcome to the forum (madhouse) :D

BTW the cancelling of pre-orders has been pointed out a number of times but fortunately many ignore this fact and the fun continues!

If you stick around long enough you'll witness an AMD release thread which makes this look like Sunday school :D
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I’ve seen all the amd stuff as well, been looking at the new LG ultra wide thread and people keep bringing up amd vs Nvidia.. who cares honestly, personally couldn’t give a monkeys what manafacture does what as long it something I want to buy and am willing to pay for it then job done! Fun and games hey..

Much more in life to get upset over than graphic cards..
 
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